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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Dec 13, 2018 17:56:05 GMT -5
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Post by Zig on Dec 13, 2018 18:13:34 GMT -5
and Kimbrel wants $100M $25M for Kelly seems fair, based on the market Yeah seems like the Sox could have matched/done a little better than 3/25 since they're gonna need BP arms. Hard to totally trust Kelly but he was awesome when it counted |
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Dec 17, 2018 16:31:06 GMT -5
Interesting trade between the Mariners and Indians. Comparing the numbers for the last seven years put up by the main characters in the deal.
Edwin Encarnacion
G AB R H TB 2B 3B HR RBI BB IBB SO SB CS BA OBP SLG
2012 TOR AL 151 542 93 152 302 24 0 42 110 84 12 94 13 3 .280 .384 .557
2013 TOR AL 142 530 90 144 283 29 1 36 104 82 7 62 7 1 .272 .370 .534
2014 TOR AL 128 477 75 128 261 27 2 34 98 62 6 82 2 0 .268 .354 .547
2015 TOR AL 146 528 94 146 294 31 0 39 111 77 5 98 3 2 .277 .372 .557
2016 TOR AL 160 601 99 158 318 34 0 42 127 87 3 138 2 0 .263 .357 .529
2017 CLE AL 157 554 96 143 279 20 1 38 107 104 5 133 2 0 .258 .377 .504
2018 CLE AL 137 500 74 123 237 16 1 32 107 63 2 132 3 0 .246 .336 .474
Carlos Santana
2012 CLE AL 143 507 72 128 213 27 2 18 76 91 4 101 3 5 .252 .365 .420
2013 CLE AL 154 541 75 145 246 39 1 20 74 93 6 110 3 1 .268 .377 .455
2014 CLE AL 152 541 68 125 231 25 0 27 85 113 5 124 5 2 .231 .365 .427
2015 CLE AL 154 550 72 127 217 29 2 19 85 108 8 122 11 3 .231 .357 .395
2016 CLE AL 158 582 89 151 290 31 3 34 87 99 0 99 5 2 .259 .366 .498
2017 CLE AL 154 571 90 148 260 37 3 23 79 88 6 94 5 1 .259 .363 .455
2018 PHI NL 161 560 82 128 232 28 2 24 86 110 6 93 2 1 .229 .352 .414
Clearly Encarnacion has a big edge in the power numbers and even batting average. Surprisingly to me, I thought Santana would beat him out in OBP. Both could run a little at one time, but those days are long gone. I guess its important that Santana is 33 and EE is 36. So the Indians are getting three years younger there. But they both slipped noticeably, and to me, Santana slipped even more than Edwin.
The Indians get some payroll relief immediately but as the article points out, they take on more overall. The Rays are speculating as usual and its not wise to sell their wisdom short judging by their track record. Who knows what Dipoto has in mind in Seattle except to pare as much off his roster as possible. The White Sox weren't in this trade but they may come out better than the three involved in this deal. Seems funny that if Cleveland is trying to shed payroll, why let Yonder Alonso (another 1B) go to Chicago?
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The close of the Winter Meetings brought with it a interesting three-team trade — authored by none other than Seattle dealmaker Jerry Dipoto, who was apparently operating from a hospital bed. The Mariners have added slugger Edwin Encarnacion while sending recently acquired first baseman Carlos Santana (Encarnacion’s former teammate) to the Indians in the deal. The Rays, too, involved in this swap. They’ll pick up corner infielder Yandy Diaz and righty Cole Sulser from the Indians and send first baseman/corner outfielder Jake Bauers to the Indians
Beyond the players involved in the trade, a reported $5MM will go to the Mariners from the Rays. Seattle, meanwhile, will send a reported $6MM on to the Indians and will also acquire the Cleveland org’s competitive balance pick in next year’s draft. It’s a Round B choice that currently sits at No. 77 — though the exact order of next year’s draft will be altered slightly by the compensation and draft penalization for teams signing players who have rejected qualifying offers. Regardless, the Mariners have likely added a top 80 selection to their slate of picks next summer.
Needless to say, there are some varying considerations at play here. Cash is king with regard to the notable veteran sluggers, who are certainly the most recognizable players in this deal. Encarnacion is owed $24MM through the 2019 campaign (including a buyout on a club option), while Santana’s deal promises him $35MM through 2020 (also with an option buyout).
It’s far from clear that Encarnacion will remain in Seattle when all is said and done. To the contrary, in fact, he may well go to Tampa Bay in a separate swap, per Scott Miller of Bleacher Report (via Twitter), though Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times emphasizes there’s nothing “in place or lined up” in that regard (Twitter link). With the M’s looking to shed payroll and boost their talent reserves, they’ll surely be willing to spin off Encarnacion — to the Rays or another rival — if there’s a favorable offer. After all, the organization already acquired and dumped Santana this winter.
Both Encarnacion and Santana will be looking to recover from relative down seasons. The former, 35, slashed .246/.336/.474 with 32 home runs last year, still a productive campaign but not to his usual standards. He’s seen mostly as a DH at this stage of his career, but can still line up at first base on at least a part-time basis. The 32-year-old Santana, meanwhile, turned in a .229/.352/.414 batting line and swatted 24 long balls in 679 plate appearances with the Phillies, who signed him after out-bidding the Indians but soured on the fit this winter. He’s regarded as a solid performer at first and still draws walks at an impressive clip; in 2018, in fact, he took 110 free passes while going down 93 times on strikes.
Working out the math for Seattle, the team will end up sending out $1MM while paring $11MM in obligations, resulting in a net savings of $10MM. They’ll only have one year of Encarnacion to deal along elsewhere, but they’ll also pick up the draft selection for their trouble.
The Indians, meanwhile, will open some additional 2018 payroll space by shedding the big hit on Encarnacion. Santana will cost more ($29MM) in the aggregate, but it’s spread over multiple years. The money from the M’s is split into $2MM and $4MM payments, Paul Hoynes of the Plain Dealer tweets. Plus, there’s the post-2020 buyout. All said, there’s now added cash hung on the 2020 and 2021 ledgers. Presumably, the club is also pleased to bring back a long-time franchise stalwart. Of course, now that Bauers is on hand along with Santana, there are now new trade possibilities here as well. First baseman Yonder Alonso, who’s owed $8MM in 2019 along with a $1MM buyout on a 2020 option, could end up on the move, though Bauers could also factor in the outfield mix and the team could utilize Alonso and Santana as a first base/DH pairing.
On the Rays’ end of the swap, Bauers was long considered a top prospect but clearly wasn’t seen as a key piece for the club. Diaz will enter an ever-changing infield mix in Tampa Bay after a strong 2018 showing in which he posted .797 OPS figures at both the Triple-A (426 plate appearances) and MLB (120 plate appearances) levels. In addition to possessing some of the game’s most impressive biceps and the ability to line up at third base as well as the corner outfield, Diaz will come with six seasons of future control. Rays exec Chaim Bloom says the club likes the versatility and the upside that comes with the 27-year-old (video link on Twitter from Topkin). Sulser, 28, has yet to reach the bigs, but will presumably factor into a deep Rays relief corps after throwing 105 innings of 3.51 ERA ball with 12.3 K/9 and 3.6 BB/9 at Triple-A over the past three seasons.
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Dec 17, 2018 19:40:11 GMT -5
Didn't take long to give up on Bauers
Seems like he has always played a level higher than most others his age.
Maybe after a year or two in the majors, he starts to live up to the hype he has gotten
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Dec 17, 2018 20:19:59 GMT -5
Didn't take long to give up on Bauers Seems like he has always played a level higher than most others his age. Maybe after a year or two in the majors, he starts to live up to the hype he has gotten Rays think he's got a chance. Probably means he does... |
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Dec 21, 2018 13:12:53 GMT -5
A's pick up Jurickson Profar in three team deal between Rangers, Rays and A's. Profar, 26, had his breakthrough season with the Rangers. This means Jed Lowrie is probably packing up again.
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11:45am: The Rangers are receiving $750K worth of international allotments in the trade, tweets Mark Feinsand of MLB.com.
11:22am: The teams have formally announced the trade. The international bonus allotments that the Rangers are receiving are coming over from the Athletics; the amount was not specified, though international allotments must be traded in increments of at least $250K, per the collective bargaining agreement.
10:15am: The Athletics, Rangers and Rays have reportedly come to an agreement on a three-team trade that will send infielder Jurickson Profar from Texas to Oakland. Yahoo’s Jeff Passan first broke the story. Right-handed reliever Emilio Pagan is headed from the A’s to the Rays in the swap, as is Oakland’s Competitive Balance Round A selection in next year’s draft (currently slotted in at No. 38 overall). The Rangers will send minor league right-hander Rollie Lacy to the Rays, as well.
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In exchange for Profar and Lacy, the Rangers will receive minor league infielder Eli White from the A’s. Additionally, the Rays will send minor league left-handers Brock Burke and Kyle Bird and minor league right-hander Yoel Espinal to the Rangers. Texas will also receive international bonus allotments in the trade.
Presumably, the trade signals that Jed Lowrie’s time with the Athletics has come to a close. The Oakland infield is currently full with Matt Chapman at third base, Marcus Semien at shortstop and Matt Olson at first base, meaning Profar’s likeliest spot with the A’s will be second base. The addition of Profar also brings into question prospect Franklin Barreto’s immediate future with the organization, as he’d been the presumptive heir apparent at second base in the event that Lowrie signed elsewhere.
Profar, 26 in February, once rated as the game’s top overall prospect but saw is promising future put on hold when a pair of shoulder injuries cost him both the 2014 and 2015 seasons. He struggled in his 2016 return and was a seldom used utility piece in 2017, but Profar finally enjoyed a full, productive season with the Rangers in 2018. Last year, the switch-hitter appeared n a career-high 146 games and tallied a career-high 594 plate appearances, hitting .254/.335/.458 with 20 homers, 35 doubles, six triples and 10 stolen bases along the way.
Because Texas optioned Profar to Triple-A for much of the 2017 season, his overall level of Major League service time was suppressed a bit. As such, he has just under five years of service time, meaning the Athletics will be able to control Profar for both the 2019 and 2020 seasons before he reaches free agency. Profar is projected by MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz to earn just $3.4MM in 2019, so he’ll be an affordable means of filling the team’s second base need for the next two years — a key factor for the perennially cost-conscious A’s, who still need to address their rotation.
The only other Major League piece involved in the trade is the 27-year-old Pagan, who is joining his third organization in three years. He spent just one year in Oakland after being acquired in the trade that sent first baseman Ryon Healy to the Mariners in the 2017-18 offseason. Though he’s moved around a fair bit, Pagan has generally had useful big league results. In 112 1/3 innings a a Major Leaguer, he’s notched a 3.85 ERA with 9.5 K/9 and 2.2 BB/9.
Though Pagan shows good control and is able to miss plenty of bats, however, he’s not without his red flags. The right-hander is among the game’s most extreme fly-ball pitchers and has yielded an average of 1.6 home runs per nine innings at the Major League level — neither of which figures to become any easier when moving to the American League East and its cavalcade of hitter-friendly parks (though Tampa Bay’s Tropicana Field doesn’t necessarily fit that description). For the Rays, the fact that Pagan is well-versed in multi-inning appearances was likely appealing, though. Pagan’s 112 1/3 MLB frames have come across 89 total appearances, and the Rays aggressively lean on multi-inning relievers as part of the burgeoning “opener” strategy that worked quite well for them in 2018.
The 23-year-old Lacy will join the Tampa Bay organization after spending only a brief time with the Rangers. Texas acquired Lacy in the July trade that sent Cole Hamels to the Cubs, though his results with the Rangers dropped off a bit from the numbers he posted in the Cubs’ minor league system. Some of that surely coincides with a move from Class-A to Class-A Advanced, and it’s worth noting that Lacy only totaled 28 1/3 innings in the Rangers’ system before the season ended, so it’s also a small sample of data. On the season as a whole, the right-hander worked to a 2.97 ERA with 10.0 K/9, 3.1 BB/9 and a ground-ball rate of nearly 60 percent through 109 innings between those two levels this season.
Looking to the Rangers’ return, Burke may well be the headliner in the deal. A third-round pick in the 2014 draft, the 22-year-old Burke was the Rays’ minor league pitcher of the year this past season and pitched to a 3.08 ERA with 10.4 K/9 and 2.9 BB/9 in 137 1/3 innings between Class-A Advanced and Double-A. The Rays protected Burke from the Rule 5 Draft last month by selecting him to the 40-man roster, and he’ll now be added to the Rangers’ 40-man in place of Profar.
Bird, 26 in April, split the year between Double-A and Triple-A, where he pitched to a combined 2.39 ERA with 88 strikeouts against 35 walks in 75 1/3 innings of relief work. Like Burke, he was selected to the Rays’ 40-man roster last month, meaning he’ll join the Rangers’ 40-man and give the organization an immediate left-handed bullpen option for the upcoming season. Even if he doesn’t break camp with the club, it seems likely that Bird will get an opportunity at some point in 2019.
The 26-year-old Espinal spent the bulk of the ’18 season in Double-A Montgomery, where he boasted a huge strikeout rate but demonstrated his share of control issues as well. In 54 2/3 innings at the Double-A level, Espinal notched an impressive 1.98 ERA with 11.7 K/9 but 4.8 BB/9 and a below-average 32.2 percent ground-ball rate. He won’t be as immediate of an option as Burke or Bird, but with some Double-A experience already under his belt, he’s likely not that far off from MLB readiness.
White, meanwhile, is the lone piece headed from Oakland to Texas in the swap. An 11th-round pick by the A’s back in the 2016 draft, White took his already-strong OBP skills to new heights in at the Double-A level in 2018. In 578 plate appearances this past season, the second baseman/shortstop hit .306/.388/.450 with nine home runs, 30 doubles, eight triples and 18 steals.
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Dec 21, 2018 18:18:10 GMT -5
Given this "dump" of Matt Kemp and Yasiel Puig on the apparently willing Cincinnati Reds, I have to believe that Bryce Harper will be in a Dodgers' uniform. Sooner or later, and probably sooner.
This is a reversal of the Red Sox successfully dumping of Carl Crawford and Adrian Gonzalez on them in late 2012, which contributed greatly to the Red Sox rebounding from last place to a surprising World Series title in 2013. While none of the players that were acquired by Boston in that trade had much to do with the rebound, it was a case of "addition by subtraction".
I think that will be the case here. The only thing worth a hill of beans for the Reds is picking up Alex Wood. He will have to make a big comeback in a very hitter friendly park. Otherwise, the Dodgers will probably be thanking Reds' GM Dick Williams for helping them to that long elusive title next fall.
As Yasiel Puig poisons the Cincinnati clubhouse and Kemp eats himself into non productivity or outright release.
Asinine move. From Reds.com -
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Cincinnati Reds President of Baseball Operations Dick Williams today announced the acquisitions of LHP Alex Wood, OF Matt Kemp, OF Yasiel Puig, IF/C Kyle Farmer and cash from the Los Angeles Dodgers in exchange for RHP Homer Bailey and minor leaguers IF Jeter Downs and RHP Josiah Gray.
Wood, 27, originally was selected by the Atlanta Braves in the second round of the June 2012 first-year player draft. On July 30, 2015 he was sent to the Dodgers, along with IF José Peraza, LHP Luis Avilan, RHP Jim Johnson, RHP Bronson Arroyo and cash, as part of 3-team deal in which Los Angeles sent 3B Hector Olivera, LHP Paco Rodriguez and RHP Zack Bird to Atlanta plus RHP Jeff Brigham, RHP Victor Araujo and RHP Kevin Guzman to Florida, while the Marlins sent RHP Mat Latos, 1B Mike Morse and cash to Los Angeles plus a 2016 supplemental first-round pick to Atlanta.
In 2017 for Los Angeles, Wood was a National League All-Star and was ninth in the Baseball Writers' Association of America's National League Cy Young Award voting after finishing 16-3 with a 2.72 ERA in 25 starts and 2 relief appearances. Last season, he went 9-7 with a 3.68 ERA in 27 starts and 6 relief appearances. In 172 Major League appearances, including 129 starts, Wood is 52-40 with a career 3.29 ERA.
Kemp, 34, is a 3-time National League All-Star, including last season, a 2-time Rawlings Gold Glove Award-winning outfielder and a 2-time Louisville Slugger Silver Slugger Award winner. In the BBWAA's annual Most Valuable Player Award voting, he finished 10th following the 2009 season and second in 2011, when he led the NL in runs scored (115), HR (39), RBI (126), total bases (353) and WAR (8.0).
Last season, in 146 appearances for the National League champion Dodgers Kemp hit .290 with 25 doubles, 21 HR and 85 RBI.
Puig, 28, in June 2012 was signed by Los Angles as a free agent. In his 2013 rookie season he finished second in the BBWAA's National League Rookie of the Year Award voting and 15th in the MVP Award balloting. The next season he was an NL All-Star while finishing 19th in the MVP voting, and in 2017 he was named to Wilson's All-Defensive Team.
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Dec 21, 2018 18:31:14 GMT -5
Given this "dump" of Matt Kemp and Yasiel Puig on the apparently willing Cincinnati Reds, I have to believe that Bryce Harper will be in a Dodgers' uniform. Sooner or later, and probably sooner. This is a reversal of the Red Sox successfully dumping of Carl Crawford and Adrian Gonzalez on them in late 2012, which contributed greatly to the Red Sox rebounding from last place to a surprising World Series title in 2013. While none of the players that were acquired by Boston in that trade had much to do with the rebound, it was a case of "addition by subtraction". I think that will be the case here. The only thing worth a hill of beans for the Reds is picking up Alex Wood. He will have to make a big comeback in a very hitter friendly park. Otherwise, the Dodgers will probably be thanking Reds' GM Dick Williams for helping them to that long elusive title next fall. As Yasiel Puig poisons the Cincinnati clubhouse and Kemp eats himself into non productivity or outright release. Asinine move. From Reds.com - ___________________________________ Cincinnati Reds President of Baseball Operations Dick Williams today announced the acquisitions of LHP Alex Wood, OF Matt Kemp, OF Yasiel Puig, IF/C Kyle Farmer and cash from the Los Angeles Dodgers in exchange for RHP Homer Bailey and minor leaguers IF Jeter Downs and RHP Josiah Gray. Wood, 27, originally was selected by the Atlanta Braves in the second round of the June 2012 first-year player draft. On July 30, 2015 he was sent to the Dodgers, along with IF José Peraza, LHP Luis Avilan, RHP Jim Johnson, RHP Bronson Arroyo and cash, as part of 3-team deal in which Los Angeles sent 3B Hector Olivera, LHP Paco Rodriguez and RHP Zack Bird to Atlanta plus RHP Jeff Brigham, RHP Victor Araujo and RHP Kevin Guzman to Florida, while the Marlins sent RHP Mat Latos, 1B Mike Morse and cash to Los Angeles plus a 2016 supplemental first-round pick to Atlanta. In 2017 for Los Angeles, Wood was a National League All-Star and was ninth in the Baseball Writers' Association of America's National League Cy Young Award voting after finishing 16-3 with a 2.72 ERA in 25 starts and 2 relief appearances. Last season, he went 9-7 with a 3.68 ERA in 27 starts and 6 relief appearances. In 172 Major League appearances, including 129 starts, Wood is 52-40 with a career 3.29 ERA. Kemp, 34, is a 3-time National League All-Star, including last season, a 2-time Rawlings Gold Glove Award-winning outfielder and a 2-time Louisville Slugger Silver Slugger Award winner. In the BBWAA's annual Most Valuable Player Award voting, he finished 10th following the 2009 season and second in 2011, when he led the NL in runs scored (115), HR (39), RBI (126), total bases (353) and WAR (8.0). Last season, in 146 appearances for the National League champion Dodgers Kemp hit .290 with 25 doubles, 21 HR and 85 RBI. Puig, 28, in June 2012 was signed by Los Angles as a free agent. In his 2013 rookie season he finished second in the BBWAA's National League Rookie of the Year Award voting and 15th in the MVP Award balloting. The next season he was an NL All-Star while finishing 19th in the MVP voting, and in 2017 he was named to Wilson's All-Defensive Team. I think it could work out for the Reds. Or maybe it's a pre-cursor to another trade involving one of them If you need to dump an expensive sack of shit like Bailey, you have to take sacks of shit in return. They are stuck with Votto, so you might as well try to build an offense to help him Maybe being on a small market team will help Puig |
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Dec 21, 2018 18:39:51 GMT -5
Given this "dump" of Matt Kemp and Yasiel Puig on the apparently willing Cincinnati Reds, I have to believe that Bryce Harper will be in a Dodgers' uniform. Sooner or later, and probably sooner. This is a reversal of the Red Sox successfully dumping of Carl Crawford and Adrian Gonzalez on them in late 2012, which contributed greatly to the Red Sox rebounding from last place to a surprising World Series title in 2013. While none of the players that were acquired by Boston in that trade had much to do with the rebound, it was a case of "addition by subtraction". I think that will be the case here. The only thing worth a hill of beans for the Reds is picking up Alex Wood. He will have to make a big comeback in a very hitter friendly park. Otherwise, the Dodgers will probably be thanking Reds' GM Dick Williams for helping them to that long elusive title next fall. As Yasiel Puig poisons the Cincinnati clubhouse and Kemp eats himself into non productivity or outright release. Asinine move. From Reds.com - ___________________________________ Cincinnati Reds President of Baseball Operations Dick Williams today announced the acquisitions of LHP Alex Wood, OF Matt Kemp, OF Yasiel Puig, IF/C Kyle Farmer and cash from the Los Angeles Dodgers in exchange for RHP Homer Bailey and minor leaguers IF Jeter Downs and RHP Josiah Gray. Wood, 27, originally was selected by the Atlanta Braves in the second round of the June 2012 first-year player draft. On July 30, 2015 he was sent to the Dodgers, along with IF José Peraza, LHP Luis Avilan, RHP Jim Johnson, RHP Bronson Arroyo and cash, as part of 3-team deal in which Los Angeles sent 3B Hector Olivera, LHP Paco Rodriguez and RHP Zack Bird to Atlanta plus RHP Jeff Brigham, RHP Victor Araujo and RHP Kevin Guzman to Florida, while the Marlins sent RHP Mat Latos, 1B Mike Morse and cash to Los Angeles plus a 2016 supplemental first-round pick to Atlanta. In 2017 for Los Angeles, Wood was a National League All-Star and was ninth in the Baseball Writers' Association of America's National League Cy Young Award voting after finishing 16-3 with a 2.72 ERA in 25 starts and 2 relief appearances. Last season, he went 9-7 with a 3.68 ERA in 27 starts and 6 relief appearances. In 172 Major League appearances, including 129 starts, Wood is 52-40 with a career 3.29 ERA. Kemp, 34, is a 3-time National League All-Star, including last season, a 2-time Rawlings Gold Glove Award-winning outfielder and a 2-time Louisville Slugger Silver Slugger Award winner. In the BBWAA's annual Most Valuable Player Award voting, he finished 10th following the 2009 season and second in 2011, when he led the NL in runs scored (115), HR (39), RBI (126), total bases (353) and WAR (8.0). Last season, in 146 appearances for the National League champion Dodgers Kemp hit .290 with 25 doubles, 21 HR and 85 RBI. Puig, 28, in June 2012 was signed by Los Angles as a free agent. In his 2013 rookie season he finished second in the BBWAA's National League Rookie of the Year Award voting and 15th in the MVP Award balloting. The next season he was an NL All-Star while finishing 19th in the MVP voting, and in 2017 he was named to Wilson's All-Defensive Team. I think it could work out for the Reds. Or maybe it's a pre-cursor to another trade involving one of them If you need to dump an expensive sack of shit like Bailey, you have to take sacks of shit in return. They are stuck with Votto, so you might as well try to build an offense to help him Maybe being on a small market team will help Puig Good point with regard to "Homer". Never take a pitcher named "Homer". A position player, yes. A pitcher, no. I guess nowadays when you are going nowhere like the Reds, you pick up a troublesome guy like Puig and try to fix him, and a near washed up guy like Kemp, in hopes of aiding your hitting attack or turn him at the trade deadline for prospects. Like the Tigers signing Tyson Ross and Jordy Mercer. Sure helps the Dodgers big time though. |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Dec 21, 2018 18:53:10 GMT -5
Puig may be "troublesome", but don't you think these career numbers will play in Cincinnati?
.279 .353 .478 .831 127
he is coming off a good season, and is in a walk year
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Dec 22, 2018 18:12:13 GMT -5
Interesting
still a shit rotation, but at least now they have a #1
still need a 3, 4, 5 behind lucchesi
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The Padres and Blue Jays are reportedly discussing a deal that would send Marcus Stroman to the friendly confines of San Diego, per sources close to MLB.com’s Jon Morosi.
The ongoing trade discussion would not include the uppermost echelon of Padres’ prospects, though Morosi names pitchers Logan Allen and Michael Baez as two prospects would could be on the table. Baez and Allen rank #7 and #8, respectively on MLB.com’s rankings of the Padres farm system, widely considered to be the best system in all of baseball.
For the Padres, it’s a good time to “buy-low” on Stroman, who is coming off easily his worst season in Toronto. He lost time to shoulder fatigue and a blister issue, finishing the year 4-9 with a 5.54 ERA in only 102 1/3 innings. GM A.J. Preller has been on the lookout for a veteran starter to help anchor their otherwise youthful rotation. At 28, with two years of team control remaining, Stroman certainly fits the mold.
The Blue Jays, meanwhile, appear ready to move on from their erstwhile ace. Though it was a rough 2018 for Stroman, he carries a 3.62 career FIP, marking a career worst 3.91 last year. The Reds were previously thought to be a logical trade partner, but the Padres young arms might be an ever better fit for the Blue Jays, who are a couple years from contending in a ruthless AL East. Already armed with some of the best position player prospects in the game, namely Vlad Guerrero Jr. and to a lesser degree, Bo Bichette, Toronto may view the arms in San Diego’s system as a better fit for their current timetable than Stroman.
It’s not a done deal by any means, but on the surface this appears like a solid match.
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Dec 23, 2018 0:17:49 GMT -5
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Dec 23, 2018 0:36:34 GMT -5
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With all due respect I think I have a decent stake in at least this one. I started it and have put in 85% of the content. at least this board. I was only talking about at that particular time since nobody was posting. "That's a horse of a different color. Come in, come in." |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Dec 23, 2018 14:07:57 GMT -5
Third base help is reportedly atop the Padres’ wish list, and the Yankees’ Miguel Andujar is among their targets, according to Jon Heyman of Fancred. The Padres “love” the 23-year-old, per Heyman, but it’s unclear whether they’ve made a legitimate attempt to acquire him. Although he turned in a near-AL Rookie of the Year season in 2018, in which he slashed .297/.328/.527 with 27 home runs in 606 plate appearances, Andujar struggled mightily as a defender. While Yankees general manager Brian Cashman has consistently praised Andujar and brushed off concerns about his defense, the player has nonetheless been a prominent part of the rumor mill this winter. If the Yankees do move Andujar, whom they could replace with free-agent superstar Manny Machado, it’s fair to surmise it’ll be for a player(s) capable of immediately upgrading the title contenders’ roster.
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Dec 23, 2018 14:09:32 GMT -5
That is what the Padres need to be doing. Getting younger, cost controlled talent.
Would be a great move for them
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Dec 24, 2018 0:10:37 GMT -5
That is what the Padres need to be doing. Getting younger, cost controlled talent. Would be a great move for them More "Andujars". Miguel, not Joaquin. Fewer Hosmers. |
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Dec 28, 2018 11:58:12 GMT -5
This guy thinks Kluber and Trevor Bauer are not going anywhere.
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By Manny Randhawa MLB.com @mannyonmlb
Dec. 27th, 2018
One of the most tantalizing names on this offseason's trade market has been Corey Kluber, as the Indians reportedly made him and fellow right-hander Trevor Bauer available for the right return. But sources from the club have told MLB.com's Anthony Castrovince that it's unlikely that either of them will be traded before Opening Day.
The Indians have been active this offseason, clearing payroll space by trading Yan Gomes, Yonder Alonso and Edwin Encarnacion. Those moves may have alleviated any possible need for the Tribe to consider shopping Kluber and Bauer. Castrovince noted on MLB Network on Thursday that Cleveland has probably cleared somewhere between $18 million and $21 million, which could be used to upgrade the outfield and the bullpen.
"Things are always in movement this time a year, we know that, there's always one phone call that can be made and change everything," Castrovince said.
Nevertheless, he added that the payroll room the Indians have created gives them the flexibility to consider a Kluber or Bauer trade if they get a haul commensurate with how much they value the hurlers, as opposed to feeling a need to deal them.
Kluber, 32, is one of the game's elite starting pitchers, with two American League Cy Young Awards to his name. Over the past three seasons, he posted a 2.77 ERA while striking out 29 percent of the batters he faced.
Bauer, who turns 28 next month, had a breakout season in 2018, posting a 2.21 ERA with 221 strikeouts over 28 appearances (27 starts). The lowest ERA he had posted in a season prior to that was 4.18, in '14.
Former MLB general manager Jim Bowden discussed the status of Kluber and Bauer on MLB Network Radio on SiriusXM on Thursday, suggesting Cleveland could trade Kluber and still be in position to win another AL Central crown in 2019.
Should they get the type of haul they're looking for in return from a team like the prospect-rich Padres, Bowden said, the Indians could very well make such a move, which could set them up to continue contending over the long term. MLB.com's Jon Paul Morosi reported Wednesday that San Diego was in discussions with Cleveland regarding Kluber.
That being said, however, Bowden added that he thinks both Kluber and Bauer will be in the Tribe's Opening Day starting rotation next season.
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Jan 5, 2019 14:06:08 GMT -5
keon broxton to the mets
nice move
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Jan 27, 2019 20:46:01 GMT -5
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Jan 30, 2019 14:56:00 GMT -5
The Reds are trying. Yes, I mean they are really trying. I think they have a bunch of misfits and questionable arms but they get more credit than that numbskull in Detroit (Al Avila).
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The Reds entered this winter determined to boost their club’s performance at the MLB level, even if an anticipated new core hasn’t quite fully come together. On the heels of four-straight campaigns with less than seventy wins and last-place division finishes, it was and is an understandable goal — albeit one that called for careful handling to avoid denting the long-term outlook.
At the top of the docket, without question, was the improvement of a rotation that has been the game’s worst over that approximate span. While the team has ended up adding two outfielders with major name recognition — Matt Kemp and Yasiel Puig — they don’t really change the overall complexion of the position-player unit. The Reds had a middle-of-the-pack lineup and bullpen in 2018. Perhaps there’s some hope that either or both of those groups (the former, particularly) will improve in the season to come. But the rotation was the major impediment, and there’s little doubting that the quality of the newly rebuilt pitching staff will have a huge say in the club’s outlook in a division that promises to feature quite a bit of competition.
When GM Nick Krall said recently that this’ll be the “best rotation we’ve had in five years,” he wasn’t exactly staking out a bold position. The standard isn’t terribly lofty. If the Cincy outfit wishes to compete, though, it’ll need to do more than just top its abysmal recent starting rotation work.
Let’s take a quick snapshot of where things stand now in the starting five, beginning with the newly hired guns:
Sonny Gray: The most recently-acquired of the team’s three new hurlers is also the one who received the biggest commitment. In addition to his preexisting $7.5MM salary for 2019, the Reds are taking on $30.5MM in new money over three years (while also gaining another season of control via option). Though his upside is perhaps easy to exaggerate, as he handily overperformed his peripherals in his best campaigns with the Athletics, Gray seems largely to have the physical skills intact that made him a high-quality, 200+-inning starter in 2014 and 2015.
Alex Wood: Long known as a talented but injury-prone pitcher, Wood has mostly provided a good quantity of innings. He showed quite a bit of ceiling upon landing with the Dodgers, but wasn’t quite as sharp last year and exhibited a 2 mph year-over-year velocity decline. Though his salary isn’t yet decided, Wood will check in with a salary between $8.7MM (the team’s filing figure) and $9.65MM (his own) in his final season of arbitration eligibility.
Tanner Roark: As with Wood, the former Nationals hurler arrived via trade in advance of his last season of control. Slated to earn an even $10MM, Roark has been longer on innings than results over the past two seasons. But he did spin two outstanding campaigns before that, even if those results weren’t fully supported by the peripherals, and has been an exceptionally durable pitcher since emerging in D.C. Roark seems a good bet to provide a steady volume of at-least good-enough frames for the Cincinnati organization.
The trio joins the following holdovers:
Luis Castillo: The sophomore slump that Castillo experienced didn’t turn out to be all that bad, as he finished with a 4.30 ERA and 8.8 K/9 against 2.6 BB/9 over 169 2/3 innings after turning on the afterburners down the stretch. In his final 11 starts, Castillo spun 66 1/3 frames of 2.44 ERA ball with a 69:14 K/BB ratio. He’s still just 26 years of age and still thrws gas. There’s certainly an argument to be made that Castillo is the likeliest member of the new-look Reds outfit to turn in top-of-the-rotation numbers, and his track record to date suggests he ought to be good at least for a nice volume of solid frmes.
Anthony DeSclafani: Maybe we’ll look back at the end of the 2019 season and wonder why we had questions. After all, DeSclafani did show some signs of returning to his prior form in 2018 — it’s just that they were obfuscated by a barrage of long balls (1.88 per nine; 19.8% HR/FB rate) that left him with a 4.93 ERA. Still, he managed to tally 115 innings after missing all of the prior season, sported a career-high 94+ average fastball, and matched his career average with a 9.4% swinging-strike rate. True, DeSclafani did surrender loads of hard contact (41.9%), but it seems he has regained much of his physical ability.
Tyler Mahle: Long considered a talented hurler, the 24-year-old sputtered in his first full effort at the game’s highest level. With 22 balls leaving the yard in his 112 frames, and a less-than-trim tally of 4.3 BB/9, it’s hardly surprising to see a 4.98 ERA on the final-season ledger. That said, Mahle also ran up 8.8 K/9 on the basis of a 9.9% swinging-strike rate. If any of the above-listed pitchers falters in camp or during the year, whether due to performance or injury issues, Mahle looks to be a nice piece to have on hand.
Other depth arms: The remaining potential rotation candidates seem to have little hope of competing for a starting job in camp — barring injury, of course. Still, there are some plausible pieces to work with in Sal Romano, Cody Reed, Matt Wisler, Lucas Sims, Keury Mella, and non-roster veteran Odrisamer Despaigne.
Looking at the overall picture, if you focus on established MLB ceiling, there’s a clear path to a quality unit. True, none of the five most accomplished pitchers — Gray, Wood, Roark, Castillo, and DeSclafani — has really ever been a dominant ace. But at their best, every one of these hurlers has had an extended run as at least a high-quality, mid-rotation starter. On the other hand, all five (to say nothing of the other players listed above) have shown their warts in the not-so-distant past. Only Wood finished the 2018 season with a sub-4.00 ERA.
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Post by tigertowner 68 on Feb 7, 2019 16:56:43 GMT -5
From Chicago Sun Times
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The Phillies and Marlins have agreed to terms on a trade that will send All-Star catcher J.T. Realmuto to Philadelphia, according to ESPN. Miami will receive catcher Jorge Alfaro and pitching prospects Sixto Sanchez and Will Stewart, as well as an international bonus slot.
The deal is reportedly done.
Realmuto, 27, has been one of the top catchers in baseball over the past three years. He’s coming off a 2018 campaign in which he batted .277/.340/.484, set a career-high with 21 home runs, earned his first All-Star appearance and won the Silver Slugger as the NL’s top hitting catcher.
The big piece heading to the Marlins is Sanchez, a 20-year-old right-hander who is widely considered one of the top pitching prospects in baseball. During the 2018 season, Sanchez recorded a 2.51 ERA with 45 strikeouts and 11 walks in 46.2 innings at the Advanced Class A level. He was ranked among baseball’s top 30 prospects entering the 2019 season by Baseball America, Baseball Prospectus and MLB.com.
Miami also receives an immediate replacement for Realmuto in Alfaro, who set a career-high by playing in 108 games for the Phillies last year. He’s batted .270/.327/.422 in 508 career plate appearances at the big league level.
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