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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2017 8:23:08 GMT -5
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Post by Just Another Shem on Jan 25, 2017 8:24:20 GMT -5
NFC? You have them as a layup against the team representing the NFC. Just say "sure they had an easy schedule. At the end of the day, it doesnt matter, because theyre the best team in the league, anyway" If they played in the NFC, the climb to grabbing HF would have been a lot tougher And getting HF is most of the battle Because there are so many good teams in the NFC? |
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Post by NEW YORK on Jan 25, 2017 8:26:14 GMT -5
If they played in the NFC, the climb to grabbing HF would have been a lot tougher And getting HF is most of the battle Because there are so many good teams in the NFC? Yes |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Jan 25, 2017 8:40:10 GMT -5
Because there are so many good teams in the NFC? Yes You have the Patriots as a layup against the team that just mopped up the NFC. Their quarterback'd by a guy you all called the League's MVP. And they are the team that just beat the brakes off of the guy you call the best quarterback ever. Nobody is saying that they didn't have an easy schedule. I think all we're saying is- does it really fucking matter? |
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Post by Zig on Jan 25, 2017 8:44:22 GMT -5
You have the Patriots as a layup against the team that just mopped up the NFC. Their quarterback'd by a guy you all called the League's MVP. And they are the team that just beat the brakes off of the guy you call the best quarterback ever. Nobody is saying that they didn't have an easy schedule. I think all we're saying is- does it really fucking matter? unless Dirt puts money on the Pats and shows proof of that I'm gonna assume he has ulterior motives for saying they win easily ya feel me dawg? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2017 8:44:50 GMT -5
excellent read snoogins...or, any of you patriots detractors who can read: fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-patriots-won-with-less-talent-than-usual/?ex_cid=story-twitterThe New England Patriots team that takes the field for Super Bowl LI will have far less star power than that of the Patriots team that won Super Bowl XLIX two years ago. But star power can be deceiving: This season’s AFC champions are very much in the same league as the last six Super Pats squads. Despite this season’s injuries, suspensions and trades that prioritized the future at the cost of the present, the Patriots finished No. 1 in wins, No. 1 in scoring defense, No. 3 in scoring offense and No. 1 in Football Outsiders’ DVOA. Head coach Bill Belichick had already built a resume worthy of the Hall of Fame, but the Patriots’ emphatic 36-17 win over the Steelers on Sunday might make this season his most impressive achievement yet. Coaching is often judged one of two ways: Did your team accomplish more than expected, or did it achieve greatness? Marvin Lewis was named AP Coach of the Year after the 2009 season, when he oversaw the the Cincinnati Bengals’ improvement from 4-11-1 to 10-6 despite several off-field tragedies that affected the team. In 2007, Belichick won after the Patriots completed the NFL’s first undefeated 16-game regular season. This year Belichick’s Patriots are on the cusp of doing both: overcoming adversity and a dearth of difference-making talent while outperforming every other team in the league. On Belichick’s six prior Super Bowl squads, his offense and defense had at least three Pro Bowlers. Save 2004, at least one big-game bound Patriot was also named to the Associated Press’s first-team All-Pro squad. But this season, only two Patriots starters were named to the initial Pro Bowl roster, and none were named an All-Pro.1 Using FiveThirtyEight’s historical Elo ratings, we can stack up the relative strength of each Patriots Super Bowl squad during the Belichick era against the number of individual honors each team’s players earned the Super Bowl season: SEASON PRO BOWLERS 1ST TEAM ALL-PROS ELO RATING 2016 2 0 1764 2014 3 2 1743 2011 7 2 1735 2007 8 5 1824 2004 4 1 1817 2003 3 3 1748 2001 4 0 1661 Patriots’ Super Bowl trips Patriots won Super Bowl Data only includes starters; no special-teamers. Elo rating for 2016 season is through AFC championship game; all others are from after Super Bowl. SOURCE: PRO-FOOTBALL-REFERENCE.COM The 2016 Pats’ Elo rating will go up or down after the Super Bowl. But as it sits, this year’s Pats compare favorably to most recent Pats’ Super Bowl teams. The exceptions are the 2004 and 2007 Pats: the top two Elo-ranked teams in NFL history. Individual awards are subjective and a matter of debate, but they’re reliable enough to make clear that this year’s Patriots have achieved historically great results despite having fewer dominant big-name playmakers than every other AFC-winning Patriots squad. Tom Brady’s top target in the win against Pittsburgh Sunday was unheralded, undrafted journeyman receiver Chris Hogan, who accounted for 180 of Brady’s 384 passing yards, plus two of the Pats’ four touchdowns. Hogan is an exemplar of what Belichick’s Patriots do so well: seek out and acquire players who fit their system but whom the rest of the league has overlooked. The Pats have done this so many times that some NFL fans have come to expect it. Kyle Van Noy, a former second-round pick whom the Patriots traded for in October, is one of the scrap-heap guys who have played a vital role for this no-name Patriots defense. From the time he made his Patriots debut in Week 11 through the end of the regular season, Van Noy finished fifth on the Patriots in combined tackles and assists. Against the Steelers on Sunday, he registered four solo tackles and forced the second-half fumble that clinched the game. Despite these fill-ins, the Patriots led the NFL in regular season DVOA for the first time since the 2010 season.2 Before the Steelers saw their season ended — emphatically — by New England, they had won nine straight games. Pittsburgh also had five players named to the Pro Bowl; in the AFC, only the Raiders had more. If there was an AFC team with the talent and experience to go into Gillette Stadium and win a playoff game, Pittsburgh was it. Yet the Steelers were out-coached and out-executed. The result of the Super Bowl doesn’t always reflect which team was stronger throughout the season. Just ask the 2007 Patriots, who won their first 18 games and registered a second-best-ever DVOA of 52.9 percent. But whether the Pats win or lose their last game, Belichick already has dominated the NFL with a roster full of retreads and role players. He had a claim on being the best coach in NFL history before this season. This squad’s performance will only bolster it. |
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Post by NEW YORK on Jan 25, 2017 8:50:19 GMT -5
You have the Patriots as a layup against the team that just mopped up the NFC. Their quarterback'd by a guy you all called the League's MVP. And they are the team that just beat the brakes off of the guy you call the best quarterback ever. Nobody is saying that they didn't have an easy schedule. I think all we're saying is- does it really fucking matter? And they got to this game because of the path they were allowed to travel
All im saying is if they played in the NFC, or in a tougher AFC, we don't even know if they are here, that's my point
This is a Pats team that had to go on the road in the past 2 postseasons, and lost in both of them, so I think there is a track record there to show that getting HF for them is hugely important...
I like them to beat the Falcons because I agree with your assessment that you don't beat the Pats in a shootout, you beat them by getting pressure up the middle on Brady....Its why I always thought KC was the toughest matchup for the Bradys', and why I thought they would slaughter the Steelers..........
I think Ryan will play well, but BB as usual, will come up with something to slow them just enough....The 40 points they usually score, will probably be more like 27
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Post by NEW YORK on Jan 25, 2017 8:51:56 GMT -5
You have the Patriots as a layup against the team that just mopped up the NFC. Their quarterback'd by a guy you all called the League's MVP. And they are the team that just beat the brakes off of the guy you call the best quarterback ever. Nobody is saying that they didn't have an easy schedule. I think all we're saying is- does it really fucking matter? unless Dirt puts money on the Pats and shows proof of that I'm gonna assume he has ulterior motives for saying they win easily ya feel me dawg? I won a ton on the Pats last week
I was the only guy in this forum that has said for 2 months they would kill the Steelers, while most thought it would be their toughest matchup........
Belichick slowed down the Greatest Show on Turf when everyone on the planet would have laughed at that possibility before that game
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Post by NEW YORK on Jan 25, 2017 8:54:40 GMT -5
excellent read snoogins...or, any of you patriots detractors who can read: fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-patriots-won-with-less-talent-than-usual/?ex_cid=story-twitterThe New England Patriots team that takes the field for Super Bowl LI will have far less star power than that of the Patriots team that won Super Bowl XLIX two years ago. But star power can be deceiving: This season’s AFC champions are very much in the same league as the last six Super Pats squads. Despite this season’s injuries, suspensions and trades that prioritized the future at the cost of the present, the Patriots finished No. 1 in wins, No. 1 in scoring defense, No. 3 in scoring offense and No. 1 in Football Outsiders’ DVOA. Head coach Bill Belichick had already built a resume worthy of the Hall of Fame, but the Patriots’ emphatic 36-17 win over the Steelers on Sunday might make this season his most impressive achievement yet. Coaching is often judged one of two ways: Did your team accomplish more than expected, or did it achieve greatness? Marvin Lewis was named AP Coach of the Year after the 2009 season, when he oversaw the the Cincinnati Bengals’ improvement from 4-11-1 to 10-6 despite several off-field tragedies that affected the team. In 2007, Belichick won after the Patriots completed the NFL’s first undefeated 16-game regular season. This year Belichick’s Patriots are on the cusp of doing both: overcoming adversity and a dearth of difference-making talent while outperforming every other team in the league. On Belichick’s six prior Super Bowl squads, his offense and defense had at least three Pro Bowlers. Save 2004, at least one big-game bound Patriot was also named to the Associated Press’s first-team All-Pro squad. But this season, only two Patriots starters were named to the initial Pro Bowl roster, and none were named an All-Pro.1 Using FiveThirtyEight’s historical Elo ratings, we can stack up the relative strength of each Patriots Super Bowl squad during the Belichick era against the number of individual honors each team’s players earned the Super Bowl season: SEASON PRO BOWLERS 1ST TEAM ALL-PROS ELO RATING 2016 2 0 1764 2014 3 2 1743 2011 7 2 1735 2007 8 5 1824 2004 4 1 1817 2003 3 3 1748 2001 4 0 1661 Patriots’ Super Bowl trips Patriots won Super Bowl Data only includes starters; no special-teamers. Elo rating for 2016 season is through AFC championship game; all others are from after Super Bowl. SOURCE: PRO-FOOTBALL-REFERENCE.COM The 2016 Pats’ Elo rating will go up or down after the Super Bowl. But as it sits, this year’s Pats compare favorably to most recent Pats’ Super Bowl teams. The exceptions are the 2004 and 2007 Pats: the top two Elo-ranked teams in NFL history. Individual awards are subjective and a matter of debate, but they’re reliable enough to make clear that this year’s Patriots have achieved historically great results despite having fewer dominant big-name playmakers than every other AFC-winning Patriots squad. Tom Brady’s top target in the win against Pittsburgh Sunday was unheralded, undrafted journeyman receiver Chris Hogan, who accounted for 180 of Brady’s 384 passing yards, plus two of the Pats’ four touchdowns. Hogan is an exemplar of what Belichick’s Patriots do so well: seek out and acquire players who fit their system but whom the rest of the league has overlooked. The Pats have done this so many times that some NFL fans have come to expect it. Kyle Van Noy, a former second-round pick whom the Patriots traded for in October, is one of the scrap-heap guys who have played a vital role for this no-name Patriots defense. From the time he made his Patriots debut in Week 11 through the end of the regular season, Van Noy finished fifth on the Patriots in combined tackles and assists. Against the Steelers on Sunday, he registered four solo tackles and forced the second-half fumble that clinched the game. Despite these fill-ins, the Patriots led the NFL in regular season DVOA for the first time since the 2010 season.2 Before the Steelers saw their season ended — emphatically — by New England, they had won nine straight games. Pittsburgh also had five players named to the Pro Bowl; in the AFC, only the Raiders had more. If there was an AFC team with the talent and experience to go into Gillette Stadium and win a playoff game, Pittsburgh was it. Yet the Steelers were out-coached and out-executed. The result of the Super Bowl doesn’t always reflect which team was stronger throughout the season. Just ask the 2007 Patriots, who won their first 18 games and registered a second-best-ever DVOA of 52.9 percent. But whether the Pats win or lose their last game, Belichick already has dominated the NFL with a roster full of retreads and role players. He had a claim on being the best coach in NFL history before this season. This squad’s performance will only bolster it. Kapernick Fitz Goff Flacco Sieman Petty Moore Ossweiler
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Post by Zig on Jan 25, 2017 8:57:36 GMT -5
unless Dirt puts money on the Pats and shows proof of that I'm gonna assume he has ulterior motives for saying they win easily ya feel me dawg? I won a ton on the Pats last week
I was the only guy in this forum that has said for 2 months they would kill the Steelers, while most thought it would be their toughest matchup........
Belichick slowed down the Greatest Show on Turf when everyone on the planet would have laughed at that possibility before that game
well sure they usually do that to the Steelers. I had KC as the toughest match up too although not tough enough to have me too worried lol AFC was dogshit this year |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Jan 25, 2017 9:25:39 GMT -5
excellent read snoogins...or, any of you patriots detractors who can read: fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-patriots-won-with-less-talent-than-usual/?ex_cid=story-twitterThe New England Patriots team that takes the field for Super Bowl LI will have far less star power than that of the Patriots team that won Super Bowl XLIX two years ago. But star power can be deceiving: This season’s AFC champions are very much in the same league as the last six Super Pats squads. Despite this season’s injuries, suspensions and trades that prioritized the future at the cost of the present, the Patriots finished No. 1 in wins, No. 1 in scoring defense, No. 3 in scoring offense and No. 1 in Football Outsiders’ DVOA. Head coach Bill Belichick had already built a resume worthy of the Hall of Fame, but the Patriots’ emphatic 36-17 win over the Steelers on Sunday might make this season his most impressive achievement yet. Coaching is often judged one of two ways: Did your team accomplish more than expected, or did it achieve greatness? Marvin Lewis was named AP Coach of the Year after the 2009 season, when he oversaw the the Cincinnati Bengals’ improvement from 4-11-1 to 10-6 despite several off-field tragedies that affected the team. In 2007, Belichick won after the Patriots completed the NFL’s first undefeated 16-game regular season. This year Belichick’s Patriots are on the cusp of doing both: overcoming adversity and a dearth of difference-making talent while outperforming every other team in the league. On Belichick’s six prior Super Bowl squads, his offense and defense had at least three Pro Bowlers. Save 2004, at least one big-game bound Patriot was also named to the Associated Press’s first-team All-Pro squad. But this season, only two Patriots starters were named to the initial Pro Bowl roster, and none were named an All-Pro.1 Using FiveThirtyEight’s historical Elo ratings, we can stack up the relative strength of each Patriots Super Bowl squad during the Belichick era against the number of individual honors each team’s players earned the Super Bowl season: SEASON PRO BOWLERS 1ST TEAM ALL-PROS ELO RATING 2016 2 0 1764 2014 3 2 1743 2011 7 2 1735 2007 8 5 1824 2004 4 1 1817 2003 3 3 1748 2001 4 0 1661 Patriots’ Super Bowl trips Patriots won Super Bowl Data only includes starters; no special-teamers. Elo rating for 2016 season is through AFC championship game; all others are from after Super Bowl. SOURCE: PRO-FOOTBALL-REFERENCE.COM The 2016 Pats’ Elo rating will go up or down after the Super Bowl. But as it sits, this year’s Pats compare favorably to most recent Pats’ Super Bowl teams. The exceptions are the 2004 and 2007 Pats: the top two Elo-ranked teams in NFL history. Individual awards are subjective and a matter of debate, but they’re reliable enough to make clear that this year’s Patriots have achieved historically great results despite having fewer dominant big-name playmakers than every other AFC-winning Patriots squad. Tom Brady’s top target in the win against Pittsburgh Sunday was unheralded, undrafted journeyman receiver Chris Hogan, who accounted for 180 of Brady’s 384 passing yards, plus two of the Pats’ four touchdowns. Hogan is an exemplar of what Belichick’s Patriots do so well: seek out and acquire players who fit their system but whom the rest of the league has overlooked. The Pats have done this so many times that some NFL fans have come to expect it. Kyle Van Noy, a former second-round pick whom the Patriots traded for in October, is one of the scrap-heap guys who have played a vital role for this no-name Patriots defense. From the time he made his Patriots debut in Week 11 through the end of the regular season, Van Noy finished fifth on the Patriots in combined tackles and assists. Against the Steelers on Sunday, he registered four solo tackles and forced the second-half fumble that clinched the game. Despite these fill-ins, the Patriots led the NFL in regular season DVOA for the first time since the 2010 season.2 Before the Steelers saw their season ended — emphatically — by New England, they had won nine straight games. Pittsburgh also had five players named to the Pro Bowl; in the AFC, only the Raiders had more. If there was an AFC team with the talent and experience to go into Gillette Stadium and win a playoff game, Pittsburgh was it. Yet the Steelers were out-coached and out-executed. The result of the Super Bowl doesn’t always reflect which team was stronger throughout the season. Just ask the 2007 Patriots, who won their first 18 games and registered a second-best-ever DVOA of 52.9 percent. But whether the Pats win or lose their last game, Belichick already has dominated the NFL with a roster full of retreads and role players. He had a claim on being the best coach in NFL history before this season. This squad’s performance will only bolster it. I don't think there is any question that this patriots team is as lean on brand-name talent on the offense of side of the ball as any of their championship teams other than 2001. |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Jan 25, 2017 9:32:45 GMT -5
You have the Patriots as a layup against the team that just mopped up the NFC. Their quarterback'd by a guy you all called the League's MVP. And they are the team that just beat the brakes off of the guy you call the best quarterback ever. Nobody is saying that they didn't have an easy schedule. I think all we're saying is- does it really fucking matter? And they got to this game because of the path they were allowed to travel
All im saying is if they played in the NFC, or in a tougher AFC, we don't even know if they are here, that's my point
This is a Pats team that had to go on the road in the past 2 postseasons, and lost in both of them, so I think there is a track record there to show that getting HF for them is hugely important...
I like them to beat the Falcons because I agree with your assessment that you don't beat the Pats in a shootout, you beat them by getting pressure up the middle on Brady....Its why I always thought KC was the toughest matchup for the Bradys', and why I thought they would slaughter the Steelers..........
I think Ryan will play well, but BB as usual, will come up with something to slow them just enough....The 40 points they usually score, will probably be more like 27
Yes. You can say that about every team in the history of football and that if they played all of the toughest teams in the league on the road then you could speculate that they may not win as many games. |
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Post by Just Another Shem on Jan 25, 2017 9:34:11 GMT -5
excellent read snoogins...or, any of you patriots detractors who can read: fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-patriots-won-with-less-talent-than-usual/?ex_cid=story-twitterThe New England Patriots team that takes the field for Super Bowl LI will have far less star power than that of the Patriots team that won Super Bowl XLIX two years ago. But star power can be deceiving: This season’s AFC champions are very much in the same league as the last six Super Pats squads. Despite this season’s injuries, suspensions and trades that prioritized the future at the cost of the present, the Patriots finished No. 1 in wins, No. 1 in scoring defense, No. 3 in scoring offense and No. 1 in Football Outsiders’ DVOA. Head coach Bill Belichick had already built a resume worthy of the Hall of Fame, but the Patriots’ emphatic 36-17 win over the Steelers on Sunday might make this season his most impressive achievement yet. Coaching is often judged one of two ways: Did your team accomplish more than expected, or did it achieve greatness? Marvin Lewis was named AP Coach of the Year after the 2009 season, when he oversaw the the Cincinnati Bengals’ improvement from 4-11-1 to 10-6 despite several off-field tragedies that affected the team. In 2007, Belichick won after the Patriots completed the NFL’s first undefeated 16-game regular season. This year Belichick’s Patriots are on the cusp of doing both: overcoming adversity and a dearth of difference-making talent while outperforming every other team in the league. On Belichick’s six prior Super Bowl squads, his offense and defense had at least three Pro Bowlers. Save 2004, at least one big-game bound Patriot was also named to the Associated Press’s first-team All-Pro squad. But this season, only two Patriots starters were named to the initial Pro Bowl roster, and none were named an All-Pro.1 Using FiveThirtyEight’s historical Elo ratings, we can stack up the relative strength of each Patriots Super Bowl squad during the Belichick era against the number of individual honors each team’s players earned the Super Bowl season: SEASON PRO BOWLERS 1ST TEAM ALL-PROS ELO RATING 2016 2 0 1764 2014 3 2 1743 2011 7 2 1735 2007 8 5 1824 2004 4 1 1817 2003 3 3 1748 2001 4 0 1661 Patriots’ Super Bowl trips Patriots won Super Bowl Data only includes starters; no special-teamers. Elo rating for 2016 season is through AFC championship game; all others are from after Super Bowl. SOURCE: PRO-FOOTBALL-REFERENCE.COM The 2016 Pats’ Elo rating will go up or down after the Super Bowl. But as it sits, this year’s Pats compare favorably to most recent Pats’ Super Bowl teams. The exceptions are the 2004 and 2007 Pats: the top two Elo-ranked teams in NFL history. Individual awards are subjective and a matter of debate, but they’re reliable enough to make clear that this year’s Patriots have achieved historically great results despite having fewer dominant big-name playmakers than every other AFC-winning Patriots squad. Tom Brady’s top target in the win against Pittsburgh Sunday was unheralded, undrafted journeyman receiver Chris Hogan, who accounted for 180 of Brady’s 384 passing yards, plus two of the Pats’ four touchdowns. Hogan is an exemplar of what Belichick’s Patriots do so well: seek out and acquire players who fit their system but whom the rest of the league has overlooked. The Pats have done this so many times that some NFL fans have come to expect it. Kyle Van Noy, a former second-round pick whom the Patriots traded for in October, is one of the scrap-heap guys who have played a vital role for this no-name Patriots defense. From the time he made his Patriots debut in Week 11 through the end of the regular season, Van Noy finished fifth on the Patriots in combined tackles and assists. Against the Steelers on Sunday, he registered four solo tackles and forced the second-half fumble that clinched the game. Despite these fill-ins, the Patriots led the NFL in regular season DVOA for the first time since the 2010 season.2 Before the Steelers saw their season ended — emphatically — by New England, they had won nine straight games. Pittsburgh also had five players named to the Pro Bowl; in the AFC, only the Raiders had more. If there was an AFC team with the talent and experience to go into Gillette Stadium and win a playoff game, Pittsburgh was it. Yet the Steelers were out-coached and out-executed. The result of the Super Bowl doesn’t always reflect which team was stronger throughout the season. Just ask the 2007 Patriots, who won their first 18 games and registered a second-best-ever DVOA of 52.9 percent. But whether the Pats win or lose their last game, Belichick already has dominated the NFL with a roster full of retreads and role players. He had a claim on being the best coach in NFL history before this season. This squad’s performance will only bolster it. Kapernick Fitz Goff Flacco Sieman Petty Moore Ossweiler
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Jan 25, 2017 9:37:31 GMT -5
So a few people whose teams got absolutely smoked in the playoffs (and some whose teams didn't even make the playoffs ) are complaining that the pats have it too easy? That's fucking rich.
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Jan 25, 2017 9:40:35 GMT -5
"The chiefs were better than the steelers". Lol. What a joke.
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Post by NEW YORK on Jan 25, 2017 9:44:45 GMT -5
Like any of us expected a bawstun to admit that playing Oakland in Oakland would be a challenge for the Pats. Oakland in Oakland with Carr would have been a more difficult game than home against Pittsburgh for sure. Much more so. They would have beaten Oakland, they would have beaten anyone in the AFC this season
I just thought with KC's pass rush, and ability to long posses on offense, they would presented the biggest challenge
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Post by Zig on Jan 25, 2017 10:01:24 GMT -5
"The chiefs were better than the steelers". Lol. What a joke. on defense, yes. And most of the play off losses for the Pats happened because the other teams D held the Pats down. Only loss I can think of that that wasnt the case was the loss in Indy in 2007...They dont lose shoot outs, they lose the defensive games specifically when teams can get pressure up the middle with their base D. They even struggled vs the Texans...the Texans! |
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Jan 25, 2017 10:03:01 GMT -5
Bwahahaha. One week ago: "you know the pats beat the steelers in October?"
"Yeah but that was with laundry jones. Not Big Ben."
Today: "Big Ben sucks."
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Post by Smuck on Jan 25, 2017 10:06:34 GMT -5
Oakland in Oakland with Carr would have been a more difficult game than home against Pittsburgh for sure. Much more so. They would have beaten Oakland, they would have beaten anyone in the AFC this season
I just thought with KC's pass rush, and ability to long posses on offense, they would presented the biggest challenge
Oakland had the ability to put points up though. KC would have kept us down more with their defense, but wouldn't have scored jack. |
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Jan 25, 2017 10:21:25 GMT -5
Anyone want to give me the falcons and 14 points? You know since this is such an easy match up according to the board braintrust?
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Jan 25, 2017 10:32:28 GMT -5
So who's giving me the falcons with 14 points?
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Post by jets12 on Jan 25, 2017 10:33:41 GMT -5
So who's giving me the falcons with 14 points? I'll give you that if you give me vegas odds. Why would I make a bet with you for worse odds than I can anywhere else? |
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Jan 25, 2017 10:39:51 GMT -5
So who's giving me the falcons with 14 points? I'll give you that if you give me vegas odds. Why would I make a bet with you for worse odds than I can anywhere else? Because this is easy money according to the board. What I've been reading is the team that smoked captain fantastic from Green Bay is easy pickings for the pats and the NFL gift wrapped another Super Bowl. |
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Post by jets12 on Jan 25, 2017 10:43:06 GMT -5
I'll give you that if you give me vegas odds. Why would I make a bet with you for worse odds than I can anywhere else? Because this is easy money according to the board. What I've been reading is the team that smoked captain fantastic from Green Bay is easy pickings for the pats and the NFL gift wrapped another Super Bowl. That doesn't make any sense. I'll make the bet if you give me the same odds I can get anywhere else. |
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Jan 25, 2017 10:48:08 GMT -5
Because this is easy money according to the board. What I've been reading is the team that smoked captain fantastic from Green Bay is easy pickings for the pats and the NFL gift wrapped another Super Bowl. That doesn't make any sense. I'll make the bet if you give me the same odds I can get anywhere else. No no no. Giving you odds implies there is some risk on your part. We've been told that this is an easy win for the pats. The problem with vegas and all the other bettors out there are they aren't as smart and knowledgeable as you guys. Those idiots appear to think the game will be close. But you guys know better. |
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Post by Super Paul Mullin on Jan 25, 2017 12:39:28 GMT -5
Prediction. If the Pats win the Superbowl Matty Ice all of a sudden goes from league MVP to garbage in the eyes of some of our illustrious posters.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2017 12:41:31 GMT -5
Prediction. If the Pats win the Superbowl Matty Ice all of a sudden goes from league MVP to garbage in the eyes of some of our illustrious posters. oh, its as good a lock as there is. "well, ryan wasnt THAT good this year. i mean, hes matt ryan!" |
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Post by NEW YORK on Jan 25, 2017 12:42:14 GMT -5
Prediction. If the Pats win the Superbowl Matty Ice all of a sudden goes from league MVP to garbage in the eyes of some of our illustrious posters. Zero Balls
Less Integrity
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Post by NEW YORK on Jan 25, 2017 12:44:23 GMT -5
Prediction. If the Pats win the Superbowl Matty Ice all of a sudden goes from league MVP to garbage in the eyes of some of our illustrious posters. oh, its as good a lock as there is. "well, ryan wasnt THAT good this year. i mean, hes matt ryan!" Pleassse Dude
If the Pats lose it will be because Special Teamer "Bobbie Bedouchery" got knocked out in the 2nd quarter
"Only Pats fans know how important Bobbie was this season"
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2017 12:46:06 GMT -5
i find it funny that people think matt ryan "suddenly figured it out" this year.
last 4 years:
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its not like he didnt have roddy white, or julio jones at all in their primes. tony gonzalez what? who?
this is why i think this is his anomalous season, like newton had last year. guys dont just turn into a HOFer at 31.
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