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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 25, 2016 11:23:24 GMT -5
also, what is up with Bosa & the Chargers.....its fucking slotted. Not sure who is being unreasonable, but if you look at SD...they just lost in the move to LA, then don't sign their 1st round pick........its not a good look. Especially when you are trying to get the city to pay for a stadium. I hear it's the "allocation of the signing bonus" that's the holdup Apparently they are approaching this the way they did with Rivers and all the way back to LT So it appears Bosa is being a dick
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Post by lemiwinks on Aug 25, 2016 11:25:20 GMT -5
also, what is up with Bosa & the Chargers.....its fucking slotted. Not sure who is being unreasonable, but if you look at SD...they just lost in the move to LA, then don't sign their 1st round pick........its not a good look. Especially when you are trying to get the city to pay for a stadium. I hear it's the "allocation of the signing bonus" that's the holdup Apparently they are approaching this the way they did with Rivers and all the way back to LT So it appears Bosa is being a dick but is that the way all the other teams do it?
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 25, 2016 11:26:47 GMT -5
I hear it's the "allocation of the signing bonus" that's the holdup Apparently they are approaching this the way they did with Rivers and all the way back to LT So it appears Bosa is being a dick but is that the way all the other teams do it? Some yes, a lot of teams spread out the bonus for whatever financial reasons and don't pay it in a lump sum. Guaranteed either way of course
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Post by Scalious on Aug 25, 2016 11:27:28 GMT -5
I hear it's the "allocation of the signing bonus" that's the holdup Apparently they are approaching this the way they did with Rivers and all the way back to LT So it appears Bosa is being a dick but is that the way all the other teams do it? A tool to circumvent the cap? probably some do..
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Post by mell on Aug 25, 2016 11:28:33 GMT -5
also, what is up with Bosa & the Chargers.....its fucking slotted. Not sure who is being unreasonable, but if you look at SD...they just lost in the move to LA, then don't sign their 1st round pick........its not a good look. Especially when you are trying to get the city to pay for a stadium. Yeah, I have no idea either. On one hand, why is Bosa worried about shit 4 years down the road when other high end picks have offset language. Otoh, why is SD not paying all his signing bonus like all top picks? I side with Bosa on this since top picks have always - always since the offset language was implemented in 2011 - gotten one of those two concessions. But Bosa has zero leverage, other than making SD look terrible like you said.
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Post by lemiwinks on Aug 25, 2016 11:42:23 GMT -5
also, what is up with Bosa & the Chargers.....its fucking slotted. Not sure who is being unreasonable, but if you look at SD...they just lost in the move to LA, then don't sign their 1st round pick........its not a good look. Especially when you are trying to get the city to pay for a stadium. Yeah, I have no idea either. On one hand, why is Bosa worried about shit 4 years down the road when other high end picks have offset language. Otoh, why is SD not paying all his signing bonus like all top picks? I side with Bosa on this since top picks have always - always since the offset language was implemented in 2011 - gotten one of those two concessions. But Bosa has zero leverage, other than making SD look terrible like you said. If Bosa doesn't sign by week 10, he cant play all year.....if he doesn't sign at all, Bosa enters the 2017 draft. So, im thinking the deadline is week 10, or else why bother signing at all. The deadline to trade him has already passed.
Bosas' have money.....But he has no leverage other than SD not being able to afford losing the #3 pick for nothing.
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Aug 25, 2016 12:33:55 GMT -5
Redskins traded a conditional 7th-round pick to Patriots for C Bryan Stork. And now he contemplates retirement. Must feel strongly about that Redskins name thing.
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Aug 25, 2016 13:22:18 GMT -5
Tre Mason has been AWOL from the St. Louis Los Angeles Rams since the end of the 2015 season but he has still made headlines in that time. During a run-in with police, Mason’s mother told the cops that head injuries had left her son with the mentality of a 10-year-old.
On July 27, Mason has cited by cops for driving his ATV erratically. It was the sixth time cops had been called to deal with Mason in less than five months. Cops pursued him and he fled to his mother’s house, where he hid while they towed the ATV away.
During the incident, Mason’s mother responded to cops saying he “should be playing football” with the following:
“No, he actually shouldn’t…There’s CTE and this head-injury thing. You can say he should be playing football, but this is not what it is.”
Mason’s mother says that his family could see a change in him after the 2015 season.
On July 23, officers were called to Mason’s house after his family members complained of “bizarre and angry outbursts.” Mason claimed he was going to “call the White House” to fire the deputies who responded to the call and that the police were responsible for teaching Al-Qaeda how to fly planes.
Following that incident, Mason was “admitted for evaluation” but subsequently released.
If true, this is tragic. Mason entered the league with so much promise after a stellar career at Auburn. He was a third-round pick who many saw as a steal for the Rams. If his mother is correct, then just two years later Mason can barely function as an adult.
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Post by lemiwinks on Aug 25, 2016 15:24:54 GMT -5
Defensive front 7 rankings......
1. Denver Broncos
Projected starters: DE Vance Walker, NT Sylvester Williams, DE Derek Wolfe; OLB Von Miller, OLB DeMarcus Ware; ILB Brandon Marshall, ILB Todd Davis
Other names to know: DE Jared Crick, DE Adam Gotsis; OLB Shaquil Barrett, OLB Shane Ray
Key stat: Denver recorded pressure on 48.9 percent of passing plays in their sub defense, the best mark in the NFL in 2015.
The reigning Super Bowl champions clinched the Lombardi Trophy with suffocating defense, and despite the loss of Malik Jackson (Jaguars) and Danny Trevathan (Bears), the Broncos still boast a powerful defensive front. Denver is led by a four-strong pack of pass-rushers, but defensive linemen like Walker, Wolfe, and Williams can both eat space to give their edge rushers room and capitalize when teams overcompensate to counter the threat of Miller, Ware, and company. Replacing Trevathan next to Brandon Marshall is the biggest challenge facing this defense.
2. Seattle Seahawks
Projected starters: DT Jordan Hill, DT Ahtyba Rubin; DE Michael Bennett, DE Cliff Avril; LB K.J. Wright, MLB Bobby Wagner, LB Michael Morgan
Other names to know: DT Jarran Reed, DT Sealver Siliga; DE Frank Clark, DE Chris Clemons; LB Kevin Pierre-Louis
Key stat: Seattle allowed only one breakaway run (15+ yards) in base defense, best in the NFL in 2015.
The Seahawks’ defensive front isn’t quite as strong as it was at its peak, but the combination of a terrifying edge-rush duo and linebackers that can cover still makes it a formidable front. Bennett and Avril are a devastating threat next to each other—or opposite one other—while Wright and Wagner are a match for most nickel-linebacker pairings in the league. Rookie Jarran Reed could revitalize an interior run defense that isn’t as fearsome as it was a couple of years ago.
3. Carolina Panthers
Projected starters: DT Kawann Short, DT Star Lotulelei; DE Kony Ealy, DE Charles Johnson; LB Thomas Davis, MLB Luke Kuechly, LB Shaq Thompson
Other names to know: DT Paul Soliai, DT Vernon Butler; DE Mario Addison, DE Wes Horton, DE Ryan Delaire; LB A.J. Klein
Key stat: Carolina stopped 34.0 percent of runs for no gain or a loss in base defense last season, an NFL-best.
Last year’s NFC champions are led by a linebacker corps that is the spine and the beating heart of their defense. Luke Kuechly and Thomas Davis formed the league’s benchmark coverage-linebacker pairing, and Kuechly produced a better all-around season than the one that saw him claim the AP’s Defensive Player of the Year award in 2013. Kawann Short is the new star of a defensive line that needs Kony Ealy to build on his productive Super Bowl showing if the Panthers aren’t to be overly reliant on the former for pass-rush production.
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Post by lemiwinks on Aug 25, 2016 15:26:36 GMT -5
5. Oakland Raiders
Projected starters: DE Mario Edwards Jr, NT Dan Williams, DE Denico Autry; OLB Khalil Mack, OLB Bruce Irvin; ILB Malcolm Smith, ILB Ben Heeney
Other names to know: NT Justin Ellis, DE Jihad Ward; OLB Aldon Smith, OLB Damontre Moore, OLB Shilique Calhoun
Key stat: Khalil Mack accounted for 28% of pressures by the Raiders front seven in 2015.
In terms of seamless quality and versatility, there may not be a better defensive front in football right now than the Raiders. Khalil Mack provides Oakland with an undeniable star, but the likes of Dan Williams, Mario Edwards Jr., and Bruce Irvin give this front all-around quality and moveable pieces that can produce from a variety of alignments. The play of the Raiders’ off-ball linebackers could be what holds this front—and the defense as a whole—back in 2016.
10. New York Jets
Projected starters: DE Leonard Williams, NT Steve McLendon, DE Muhammad Wilkerson; OLB Lorenzo Mauldin, DE/OLB Sheldon Richardson; ILB David Harris, ILB Darron Lee
Other names to know: DE Jarvis Jenkins; OLB Jordan Jenkins; ILB Erin Henderson, ILB Bruce Carter
Key stat: The Jets allowed only one rushing touchdown in base defense–fewest in the NFL in 2015.
Though Sheldon Richardson will miss Week 1 for the second year in a row, the Jets still boast an embarrassment of riches up front on the defensive line. Richardson, Leonard Williams, and Muhammad Wilkerson power a defense whose biggest weakness is a lack of production off the edge, a hole that Lorenzo Mauldin and rookie Jordan Jenkins will be charged with plugging. At the second level, an upgrade on the departed Demario Davis next to David Harris could yet see this defense take a jump forwards in Todd Bowles’ second year at the helm.
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Post by lemiwinks on Aug 25, 2016 15:27:50 GMT -5
12. New York Giants
Projected starters: DT Damon Harrison, DT Johnathan Hankins; DE Jason Pierre-Paul, DE Olivier Vernon; LB J.T. Thomas, MLB Jasper Brinkley, LB Devon Kennard
Other names to know: DT Jay Bromley; DE Owamagbe Odighizuwa, DE Kerry Wynn; LB Keenan Robinson, LB Kelvin Sheppard, LB Jonathan Casillas, LB Mark Herzlich, LB B.J. Goodson
Key stat: The Giants recorded pressure on only 31.3 percent of passing plays in sub-packages, the second-lowest rate in the NFL in 2015.
The Giants’ defensive front was a weakness last year, but after some heavy investment (at least on the front half), it looks like one of the strengths of their current roster. Damon Harrison’s acquisition should provide dividends in the run game, but it’s Olivier Vernon’s acquisition on sub-packages that could have the biggest impact. Vernon’s 60 pressures were the fifth-most in nickel defenses last season, a mark the Giants only just doubled as an entire team. In spite of the investment up front, the Giants appear to have once again overlooked a linebacking corps that could again be the failing of their entire defense.
21. Philadelphia Eagles
Projected starters: DT Fletcher Cox, DT Bennie Logan; DE Brandon Graham, DE Connor Barwin; MLB Jordan Hicks, LB Mychal Kendricks, LB Nigel Bradham
Other names to know: DT Vinny Curry; DE Marcus Smith, DE Alex McCalister
Key stat: Fletcher Cox accounted for 24.7 percent of the total pressures recorded by the Eagles’ front-seven in 2015.
Shifting from a 3-4 to a 4-3 front in their base defense will put the Eagles’ two most productive players, Fletcher Cox and Bennie Logan, into the heart of the defense. The defensive line is strong with a limited rotation, but beyond fifth lineman Vinny Curry, a versatile pass-rush weapon, the depth is shaky. Those issues creep into the starting lineup at linebacker, where the Eagles will have to hope Jordan Hicks can pick up where he left off in his rookie campaign to lead the group. Mychal Kendricks and Nigel Bradham, meanwhile are coming off of poor seasons and will hope to return to former glories if the Eagles are to outperform this ranking in 2016.
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Post by lemiwinks on Aug 25, 2016 15:28:24 GMT -5
24. Dallas Cowboys
Projected starters: DT Cedric Thornton, DT Tyrone Crawford; DE Randy Gregory, DE DeMarcus Lawrence; LB Sean Lee, MLB Anthony Hitchens, LB Andrew Gachkar
Other names to know: DT Jack Crawford, DT Maliek Collins, DT David Irving; DE Benson Mayowa, DE Charles Tapper; LB Kyle Wilber
Key stat: Dallas recorded a pressure on 33.8 percent of passing plays in sub-packages last season, the 23rd-best mark in the NFL.
Suspensions are going to weaken an already thin Dallas front-seven for the start of this season, with their expected middle linebacker gone for 10 weeks and their top two defensive ends missing the first four weeks of the season. Those suspensions expose inexperience at defensive end and the underwhelming Anthony Hitchens at linebacker for an extended period of time. The Cowboys will look to lean on Sean Lee at the second level as one of the league’s best coverage linebackers, but if an unheralded star can’t emerge at defensive end, then too much will be asked of Tyrone Crawford to power Dallas’ pass-rush for the first month of the season.
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Post by lemiwinks on Aug 25, 2016 15:29:02 GMT -5
9. Chicago Bears
Projected starters: DE Jonathan Bullard, NT Eddie Goldman, DE Akiem Hicks; OLB Pernell McPhee, OLB Leonard Floyd; ILB Jerrell Freeman, ILB Danny Trevathan
Other names to know: DE Mitch Unrein, DE Will Sutton; OLB Willie Young, OLB Lamarr Houston, OLB Sam Acho; ILB Christian Jones
Key stat: Five of Chicago’s front-seven players recorded 25 pressures or more in 2015.
There have been few such radical and rapid overhauls of a unit as the Bears have undergone in the last 12 months on defense, with every starter in this defensive front a new face since the end of the 2014 season. The Bears trusted in the ability of Willie Young and Lamarr Houston to play with their hand off the ground, and were rewarded with an array of productive pass-rushers, led by free-agent signing Pernell McPhee, who more than lived up to his contract. This year, the investment went into off-the-ball linebackers, where Jerrell Freeman and Danny Trevathan offer an immediate upgrade. The top questions for the Bears to answer will be the depth on the defensive line and at linebacker—can the rotation match the quality of the starters?
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Post by mccombe35 on Aug 25, 2016 15:32:56 GMT -5
where are the bengals?
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Post by lemiwinks on Aug 25, 2016 15:34:27 GMT -5
14. Cincinnati Bengals
Projected starters: DT Geno Atkins, DT Domata Peko; DE Carlos Dunlap, DE Michael Johnson; LB Vontaze Burfict, MLB Rey Maualuga, LB Vincent Rey
Other names to know: DT Pat Sims, DT Andrew Billings, DT Brandon Thompson; DE Margus Hunt, DE Will Clarke; LB Karlos Dansby
Key stat: The Bengals stopped 27.2 percent of runs for no gain or a loss in sub-packages last season, the highest-rate in the NFL.
Geno Atkins’ return to his best form boosted the entire Bengals’ defense last year, but a lack of quality depth not only limits this defensive front, it also increases the risk of a fallback season if Atkins can’t replicate his top-tier play. On the defensive line, the likes of Michael Johnson and Domata Peko need to be pushed to improve—or pushed out of the lineup. Johnson was at least strong in run defense, but a lack of production as a pass-rusher put the pressure on Carlos Dunlap and Atkins to shoulder the load. At linebacker, the acquisition of Karlos Dansby (Browns) could improve the Bengals’ coverage in sub-packages, an area Cincinnati struggled with a year ago
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Post by b1ake on Aug 25, 2016 15:44:34 GMT -5
24. Dallas Cowboys Projected starters: DT Cedric Thornton, DT Tyrone Crawford; DE Randy Gregory, DE DeMarcus Lawrence; LB Sean Lee, MLB Anthony Hitchens, LB Andrew Gachkar Other names to know: DT Jack Crawford, DT Maliek Collins, DT David Irving; DE Benson Mayowa, DE Charles Tapper; LB Kyle Wilber Key stat: Dallas recorded a pressure on 33.8 percent of passing plays in sub-packages last season, the 23rd-best mark in the NFL. Suspensions are going to weaken an already thin Dallas front-seven for the start of this season, with their expected middle linebacker gone for 10 weeks and their top two defensive ends missing the first four weeks of the season. Those suspensions expose inexperience at defensive end and the underwhelming Anthony Hitchens at linebacker for an extended period of time. The Cowboys will look to lean on Sean Lee at the second level as one of the league’s best coverage linebackers, but if an unheralded star can’t emerge at defensive end, then too much will be asked of Tyrone Crawford to power Dallas’ pass-rush for the first month of the season. Going to be a long season. The offense needs to hold the ball!!
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Post by The Bag on Aug 25, 2016 15:59:21 GMT -5
12. New York Giants Projected starters: DT Damon Harrison, DT Johnathan Hankins; DE Jason Pierre-Paul, DE Olivier Vernon; LB J.T. Thomas, MLB Jasper Brinkley, LB Devon Kennard Other names to know: DT Jay Bromley; DE Owamagbe Odighizuwa, DE Kerry Wynn; LB Keenan Robinson, LB Kelvin Sheppard, LB Jonathan Casillas, LB Mark Herzlich, LB B.J. Goodson Key stat: The Giants recorded pressure on only 31.3 percent of passing plays in sub-packages, the second-lowest rate in the NFL in 2015. The Giants’ defensive front was a weakness last year, but after some heavy investment (at least on the front half), it looks like one of the strengths of their current roster. Damon Harrison’s acquisition should provide dividends in the run game, but it’s Olivier Vernon’s acquisition on sub-packages that could have the biggest impact. Vernon’s 60 pressures were the fifth-most in nickel defenses last season, a mark the Giants only just doubled as an entire team. In spite of the investment up front, the Giants appear to have once again overlooked a linebacking corps that could again be the failing of their entire defense. 21. Philadelphia Eagles Projected starters: DT Fletcher Cox, DT Bennie Logan; DE Brandon Graham, DE Connor Barwin; MLB Jordan Hicks, LB Mychal Kendricks, LB Nigel Bradham Other names to know: DT Vinny Curry; DE Marcus Smith, DE Alex McCalister Key stat: Fletcher Cox accounted for 24.7 percent of the total pressures recorded by the Eagles’ front-seven in 2015. Shifting from a 3-4 to a 4-3 front in their base defense will put the Eagles’ two most productive players, Fletcher Cox and Bennie Logan, into the heart of the defense. The defensive line is strong with a limited rotation, but beyond fifth lineman Vinny Curry, a versatile pass-rush weapon, the depth is shaky. Those issues creep into the starting lineup at linebacker, where the Eagles will have to hope Jordan Hicks can pick up where he left off in his rookie campaign to lead the group. Mychal Kendricks and Nigel Bradham, meanwhile are coming off of poor seasons and will hope to return to former glories if the Eagles are to outperform this ranking in 2016. 21st? Lol.
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Post by lemiwinks on Aug 25, 2016 16:12:17 GMT -5
12. New York Giants Projected starters: DT Damon Harrison, DT Johnathan Hankins; DE Jason Pierre-Paul, DE Olivier Vernon; LB J.T. Thomas, MLB Jasper Brinkley, LB Devon Kennard Other names to know: DT Jay Bromley; DE Owamagbe Odighizuwa, DE Kerry Wynn; LB Keenan Robinson, LB Kelvin Sheppard, LB Jonathan Casillas, LB Mark Herzlich, LB B.J. Goodson Key stat: The Giants recorded pressure on only 31.3 percent of passing plays in sub-packages, the second-lowest rate in the NFL in 2015. The Giants’ defensive front was a weakness last year, but after some heavy investment (at least on the front half), it looks like one of the strengths of their current roster. Damon Harrison’s acquisition should provide dividends in the run game, but it’s Olivier Vernon’s acquisition on sub-packages that could have the biggest impact. Vernon’s 60 pressures were the fifth-most in nickel defenses last season, a mark the Giants only just doubled as an entire team. In spite of the investment up front, the Giants appear to have once again overlooked a linebacking corps that could again be the failing of their entire defense. 21. Philadelphia Eagles Projected starters: DT Fletcher Cox, DT Bennie Logan; DE Brandon Graham, DE Connor Barwin; MLB Jordan Hicks, LB Mychal Kendricks, LB Nigel Bradham Other names to know: DT Vinny Curry; DE Marcus Smith, DE Alex McCalister Key stat: Fletcher Cox accounted for 24.7 percent of the total pressures recorded by the Eagles’ front-seven in 2015. Shifting from a 3-4 to a 4-3 front in their base defense will put the Eagles’ two most productive players, Fletcher Cox and Bennie Logan, into the heart of the defense. The defensive line is strong with a limited rotation, but beyond fifth lineman Vinny Curry, a versatile pass-rush weapon, the depth is shaky. Those issues creep into the starting lineup at linebacker, where the Eagles will have to hope Jordan Hicks can pick up where he left off in his rookie campaign to lead the group. Mychal Kendricks and Nigel Bradham, meanwhile are coming off of poor seasons and will hope to return to former glories if the Eagles are to outperform this ranking in 2016. 21st? Lol. too high?
yeah...maybe.
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Post by Zig on Aug 25, 2016 16:19:19 GMT -5
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Post by lemiwinks on Aug 25, 2016 16:27:21 GMT -5
Boston doesn't think defense is important.
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Post by lemiwinks on Aug 25, 2016 16:27:44 GMT -5
I think they were in the 12/13 range.
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Post by The Bag on Aug 25, 2016 17:21:30 GMT -5
If hicks stays healthy, they are a top ten front seven imo.
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Post by MoonDriven on Aug 25, 2016 17:23:06 GMT -5
If hicks stays healthy, they are a top ten front seven imo. And a bottom feeder secondary?
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Post by The Bag on Aug 25, 2016 17:23:53 GMT -5
If hicks stays healthy, they are a top ten front seven imo. And a bottom feeder secondary? Outside of Jenkins, absolutely.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2016 19:43:50 GMT -5
Arian foster can still play.
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Post by The Bag on Aug 30, 2016 11:53:13 GMT -5
Brandon brower cut by new Orleans.
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Post by redseat on Aug 31, 2016 6:24:35 GMT -5
ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- Denver Broncos quarterback Mark Sanchez said Tuesday he'd like to stay with the team even though he did not win the starting job.
Coach Gary Kubiak named Trevor Siemian the Broncos' starting quarterback Monday and has to decide who will be the team's No. 2 -- rookie Paxton Lynch or Sanchez. That leaves Sanchez with an uncertain future after arriving in Denver with what he called "an opportunity of a lifetime."
Sanchez did not play in last Saturday's preseason game against the Los Angeles Rams and will not play Thursday night in Arizona unless Lynch needs to come out,
It has put him in an odd sort of limbo, waiting to see what the Broncos will do and waiting to see what kind of opportunities are out there for him, given that he is slated to be an unrestricted free agent at season's end.
"Getting ready for Carolina, but as a competitor you know you're disappointed things went the way that they did," Sanchez said after Tuesday's practice. "But, at the same time, you understand there's an emotional side to it, a competitor's side, but there's also a teammate. And me, enjoying my time here and really respecting this organization, respecting Trevor as a friend and as a player and as a teammate, the most important thing to do is move forward and help this team."
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Post by NEW YORK on Aug 31, 2016 7:02:39 GMT -5
Football should be this weekend
The waiting sucks
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2016 7:04:20 GMT -5
Football should be this weekend The waiting sucks Word Fuck these 4 games
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Post by redseat on Aug 31, 2016 7:06:27 GMT -5
Football should be this weekend The waiting sucks Word Fuck these 4 games Bridgewater agrees
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