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Post by doobeedoobeedoo on Jul 13, 2016 7:54:11 GMT -5
Oh captain, my captain...
Before this season, this was my favorite tribute video:
This was probably the best made video going into this season:
To illustrate how much he was the catalyst to turn the season around:
And of course the video to silence the haters:
Without a doubt, the greatest player of his generation!
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Post by doobeedoobeedoo on Jul 13, 2016 7:57:50 GMT -5
Won't lie, I cheered more than any American when Canada won the gold in 2010...
Sid > My country
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Post by doobeedoobeedoo on Jul 13, 2016 8:09:31 GMT -5
Watching these highlights, I almost feel bad for Capitals & Flyers fans, we've had at least 4 players greater than anyone they've ever had (Lemieux, Jagr, Crosby, & Malkin).
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Post by doobeedoobeedoo on Jul 13, 2016 8:14:59 GMT -5
Just for the record, my dad is a Flyers fan, and I think my bro became a Flyer fan because it enables him to suck up to my dad to get a larger chunk of the inheritance than the rest of us (who are all Penguin fans), but you know what? I don't care, it's well worth it to see 4 Stanley Cup wins in my lifetime compared to my bro's zero Cup wins!
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Post by doobeedoobeedoo on Jul 13, 2016 8:21:43 GMT -5
Sid = Toews & Kane combined, but for $12.3 million less per year
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2016 18:58:08 GMT -5
Sid = Toews & Kane combined, but for $12.3 million less per year You're teetering on the brink of ambitious and crazy here Doob..... That said, Sid is still the best overall player in the NHL.
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Post by doobeedoobeedoo on Jul 13, 2016 20:34:48 GMT -5
Sid = Toews & Kane combined, but for $12.3 million less per year You're teetering on the brink of ambitious and crazy here Doob..... That said, Sid is still the best overall player in the NHL. Sorry, drunk post.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2016 20:49:15 GMT -5
You're teetering on the brink of ambitious and crazy here Doob..... That said, Sid is still the best overall player in the NHL. Sorry, drunk post. Those are the best kind sir.
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Jul 14, 2016 23:07:53 GMT -5
Watching these highlights, I almost feel bad for Capitals & Flyers fans, we've had at least 4 players greater than anyone they've ever had (Lemieux, Jagr, Crosby, & Malkin). Ovie's better than Malkin by quite a bit
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Post by doobeedoobeedoo on Jul 14, 2016 23:12:20 GMT -5
Watching these highlights, I almost feel bad for Capitals & Flyers fans, we've had at least 4 players greater than anyone they've ever had (Lemieux, Jagr, Crosby, & Malkin). Ovie's better than Malkin by quite a bit Disagree, Geno led us to the Cup in 2009.
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Jul 15, 2016 0:24:01 GMT -5
Ovie's better than Malkin by quite a bit Disagree, Geno led us to the Cup in 2009. Whoopdy shit.
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Post by doobeedoobeedoo on Jul 16, 2016 6:22:20 GMT -5
No one in the league has a greater sense of destiny than Sid,
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Post by Canuck eh? on Jul 16, 2016 9:28:58 GMT -5
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Post by Canuck eh? on Jul 16, 2016 9:30:54 GMT -5
Disagree, Geno led us to the Cup in 2009. Whoopdy shit. Sorry Doob I gotta agree with Swamp's eloquent argument.
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Jul 16, 2016 10:49:30 GMT -5
Sorry Doob I gotta agree with Swamp's eloquent argument. Thank you I was trying to capture the moment
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Post by doobeedoobeedoo on Jul 16, 2016 11:53:55 GMT -5
Geno also won the MVP in 2012,
he's a big reason teams keep their top defensive parings off Sid & the HBK line. Much like Sid, Geno can dominate without having any top notch wingers on his line. He plays a lot like Sid, except a lot more physical.
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Post by Center Ice on Jul 16, 2016 17:48:57 GMT -5
Geno also won the MVP in 2012, he's a big reason teams keep their top defensive parings off Sid & the HBK line. Much like Sid, Geno can dominate without having any top notch wingers on his line. He plays a lot like Sid, except a lot more physical. 24
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Post by burghfan on Jul 16, 2016 22:46:01 GMT -5
Sorry Doob I gotta agree with Swamp's eloquent argument. Thank you I was trying to capture the moment Without a doubt Ovechkin is the better player, but I'd rather have Malkin on my team. Malkin has been a 2 way player throughout his career, whereas Ovie is just starting to get the idea that he is supposed to back check. Up until the last couple years Ovechkin mainly skated figure eights at center ice when the puck was in his zone. One other thing, and I know I put too much emphasis on the plus/minus, but Gino has a career plus 57 whereas Ovechkin has a career plus 78. Ovechkin has played one more year than Malkin. Malkin is also more of a team player than Ovie is. If you want to look at the bottom line, Sid and Gino have won the Cup twice and won the Eastern Conference final 3 times. Ovie has yet to even get to the Eastern Conference final.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2016 22:55:30 GMT -5
Thank you I was trying to capture the moment Without a doubt Ovechkin is the better player, but I'd rather have Malkin on my team. Malkin has been a 2 way player throughout his career, whereas Ovie is just starting to get the idea that he is supposed to back check. Up until the last couple years Ovechkin mainly skated figure eights at center ice when the puck was in his zone. One other thing, and I know I put too much emphasis on the plus/minus, but Gino has a career plus 57 whereas Ovechkin has a career plus 78. Ovechkin has played one more year than Malkin. Malkin is also more of a team player than Ovie is. If you want to look at the bottom line, Sid and Gino have won the Cup twice and won the Eastern Conference final 3 times. Ovie has yet to even get to the Eastern Conference final. No offense, but BS premise. I'm not an OV fan, but he's never played on a team with somebody that's better than him. If you switch Ov and Malkin, Crosby doesn't have a cup? Hockey is a sport that thrives (and dies) on leadership and culture. Maybe Ov is a cancer, maybe he isn't, but saying unequivocally that Malkin > OV when none of the numbers support it.....
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Post by doobeedoobeedoo on Jul 17, 2016 0:02:55 GMT -5
Geno also won the MVP in 2012, he's a big reason teams keep their top defensive parings off Sid & the HBK line. Much like Sid, Geno can dominate without having any top notch wingers on his line. He plays a lot like Sid, except a lot more physical. 24 Can't argue with that!
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Post by doobeedoobeedoo on Jul 17, 2016 0:26:03 GMT -5
Without a doubt Ovechkin is the better player, but I'd rather have Malkin on my team. Malkin has been a 2 way player throughout his career, whereas Ovie is just starting to get the idea that he is supposed to back check. Up until the last couple years Ovechkin mainly skated figure eights at center ice when the puck was in his zone. One other thing, and I know I put too much emphasis on the plus/minus, but Gino has a career plus 57 whereas Ovechkin has a career plus 78. Ovechkin has played one more year than Malkin. Malkin is also more of a team player than Ovie is. If you want to look at the bottom line, Sid and Gino have won the Cup twice and won the Eastern Conference final 3 times. Ovie has yet to even get to the Eastern Conference final. No offense, but BS premise. I'm not an OV fan, but he's never played on a team with somebody that's better than him. If you switch Ov and Malkin, Crosby doesn't have a cup? Hockey is a sport that thrives (and dies) on leadership and culture. Maybe Ov is a cancer, maybe he isn't, but saying unequivocally that Malkin > OV when none of the numbers support it..... 4 reasons I have always found OV to be OVerrated in the playoffs... 1) like Burgfan said, he's useless in his own zone (can't be trusted to kill power plays). 2) taking 1 timers from the right face off circle gets repetitive after a while, teams adjust while OV keeps doing the same thing. 3) if he's so great, why do the Capitals always have to OVerload OV's lines with the likes of Backstrom, Oshie, Ward, & Semin? Wouldn't the Capitals have more depth if they had OV carry the 1st line like Sid & Geno are expected to do with their lines? 4) I don't believe it makes sense in the era of the salary cap to pay a player over $10 million per season unless they've already delivered the franchise a Cup (like Toews, Kane, & Kopitar have). Paying 1 player that kind of money severely limits your ability to build a deep team, which is essential to winning the Cup.
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Post by doobeedoobeedoo on Jul 17, 2016 0:40:39 GMT -5
Besides, Sid can't stand OV while he gets along real well with Geno, so that's another reason I wouldn't want OV on the Pens. OV would likely disrupt our chemistry. He would demand to be on Sid's line & expect Sid to pass him the puck all game so he could take 1 timers the entire game. And if he didn't get his way, he would have the coach fired like he did with Hanlon, Boudreau, Hunter, & Oates.
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Post by doobeedoobeedoo on Jul 17, 2016 1:02:06 GMT -5
But back to the topic of this thread: Sid! Had a conversation on another board about how people don't truly appreciate Sid because he has a boring personality. A lot of us Pens fans argued that it's a false perception because Sid likes to keep his private life private compared to most superstar athletes. I argued that if Sid really didn't have a personality, there's no way an A&F model would stick it out with him for 8+ years, and I wouldn't be surprised one bit if Sid is a lot like Christian Grey in his private life...
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Post by doobeedoobeedoo on Jul 17, 2016 2:47:23 GMT -5
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Post by doobeedoobeedoo on Jul 17, 2016 3:25:59 GMT -5
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Jul 17, 2016 14:20:15 GMT -5
No offense, but BS premise. I'm not an OV fan, but he's never played on a team with somebody that's better than him. If you switch Ov and Malkin, Crosby doesn't have a cup? Hockey is a sport that thrives (and dies) on leadership and culture. Maybe Ov is a cancer, maybe he isn't, but saying unequivocally that Malkin > OV when none of the numbers support it..... 4 reasons I have always found OV to be OVerrated in the playoffs... 1) like Burgfan said, he's useless in his own zone (can't be trusted to kill power plays). 2) taking 1 timers from the right face off circle gets repetitive after a while, teams adjust while OV keeps doing the same thing. 3) if he's so great, why do the Capitals always have to OVerload OV's lines with the likes of Backstrom, Oshie, Ward, & Semin? Wouldn't the Capitals have more depth if they had OV carry the 1st line like Sid & Geno are expected to do with their lines? 4) I don't believe it makes sense in the era of the salary cap to pay a player over $10 million per season unless they've already delivered the franchise a Cup (like Toews, Kane, & Kopitar have). Paying 1 player that kind of money severely limits your ability to build a deep team, which is essential to winning the Cup. Doobie you're going all Argo before our eyes
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Jul 17, 2016 14:50:46 GMT -5
But back to the topic of this thread: Sid! Had a conversation on another board about how people don't truly appreciate Sid because he has a boring personality. A lot of us Pens fans argued that it's a false perception because Sid likes to keep his private life private compared to most superstar athletes. I argued that if Sid really didn't have a personality, there's no way an A&F model would stick it out with him for 8+ years, and I wouldn't be surprised one bit if Sid is a lot like Christian Grey in his private life... Gee I've never seen a model with a sports celebrity before
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Post by doobeedoobeedoo on Jul 17, 2016 15:01:42 GMT -5
But back to the topic of this thread: Sid! Had a conversation on another board about how people don't truly appreciate Sid because he has a boring personality. A lot of us Pens fans argued that it's a false perception because Sid likes to keep his private life private compared to most superstar athletes. I argued that if Sid really didn't have a personality, there's no way an A&F model would stick it out with him for 8+ years, and I wouldn't be surprised one bit if Sid is a lot like Christian Grey in his private life... Gee I've never seen a model with a sports celebrity before They're not usually as low key as Kathy Leutner (do you know of any models that don't use Instagram?). Besides, the point is that a model isn't likely to spend 8+ years with someone if they're boring.
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Post by burghfan on Jul 17, 2016 16:40:16 GMT -5
Without a doubt Ovechkin is the better player, but I'd rather have Malkin on my team. Malkin has been a 2 way player throughout his career, whereas Ovie is just starting to get the idea that he is supposed to back check. Up until the last couple years Ovechkin mainly skated figure eights at center ice when the puck was in his zone. One other thing, and I know I put too much emphasis on the plus/minus, but Gino has a career plus 57 whereas Ovechkin has a career plus 78. Ovechkin has played one more year than Malkin. Malkin is also more of a team player than Ovie is. If you want to look at the bottom line, Sid and Gino have won the Cup twice and won the Eastern Conference final 3 times. Ovie has yet to even get to the Eastern Conference final. No offense, but BS premise. I'm not an OV fan, but he's never played on a team with somebody that's better than him. If you switch Ov and Malkin, Crosby doesn't have a cup? Hockey is a sport that thrives (and dies) on leadership and culture. Maybe Ov is a cancer, maybe he isn't, but saying unequivocally that Malkin > OV when none of the numbers support it..... I'm not saying that Malkin is a better player than OV, I'm saying Malkin is a better teammate than OV. OV generates a lot of statistics, but you know what they say, statistics are for losers. Malkin is a two way, team player, just like Sid. (I also think that both of them gave Phil a good example to work on. We'll see if Phil continues to play both ways like he did in the playoffs.) If Pittsburgh would have won the coin toss, and got to pick OV instead of Gino would Sid still have two Cups? I'm not sure, Ovs attitude may have pulled down the team.
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Post by burghfan on Jul 17, 2016 16:46:33 GMT -5
Feel good video about Sid.
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