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Post by doobeedoobeedoo on Jul 21, 2016 4:03:33 GMT -5
So... Cruz and Trump basically told each other to fuck off tonight.   |
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Jul 21, 2016 7:08:45 GMT -5
I'll give Cruz credit... as well as Rubio. All of the bullshit Trump dropped on them during the primaries - I wouldn't have endorsed the asshole either. Problem with Cruz is he fancies himself as the true leader of the Conservative movement.
He's no Goldwater. Not even close. And he's sure as hell no Reagan.
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Post by Canuck eh? on Jul 21, 2016 10:05:08 GMT -5
I'll give Cruz credit... as well as Rubio. All of the bullshit Trump dropped on them during the primaries - I wouldn't have endorsed the asshole either. Problem with Cruz is he fancies himself as the true leader of the Conservative movement. He's no Goldwater. Not even close. And he's sure as hell no Reagan. Didn't he take some kind of unofficial oath to support the Republican nominee? |
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Jul 21, 2016 11:56:44 GMT -5
I'll give Cruz credit... as well as Rubio. All of the bullshit Trump dropped on them during the primaries - I wouldn't have endorsed the asshole either. Problem with Cruz is he fancies himself as the true leader of the Conservative movement. He's no Goldwater. Not even close. And he's sure as hell no Reagan. Didn't he take some kind of unofficial oath to support the Republican nominee? Supposed to have signed a pledge. But the more I read the less I'm convinced he signed anything. He did state in an interview he would but any politician making vocal noises is usually lying so I'm not going by that. |
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Post by Canuck eh? on Jul 21, 2016 21:21:39 GMT -5
Supposed to have signed a pledge. But the more I read the less I'm convinced he signed anything. He did state in an interview he would but any politician making vocal noises is usually lying so I'm not going by that. Back when the Republican candidate was far from decided, Trump made multiple comments that insinuated he had no plans of sticking to the oath himself. How many times did he threaten to run third-party if he wasn't treated "fairly"? So if he had no intentions of abiding by the oath, why should any other Republican feel obliged to support him? I agree with you 100%. However, my statement had more to do with Cruz being a lying asshat. But then we knew that didn't we? |
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Post by doobeedoobeedoo on Jul 22, 2016 6:42:07 GMT -5
Ivanka Trump went out there & talked about the importance of a national healthcare service, equal pay for women, & forgiving student loans.
Peter Thiel went out there and told them that the bathroom laws are a waste of time.
Basically advocating Hillary's platform, and the Republicans cheered.
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Post by doobeedoobeedoo on Jul 22, 2016 7:00:29 GMT -5
Ivanka Trump went out there & talked about the importance of a national healthcare service, equal pay for women, & forgiving student loans. Peter Thiel went out there and told them that the bathroom laws are a waste of time. And the Republicans cheered. The student loan thing pisses me off. I spent the last ten years paying off my student loans. Finally finished in June. Why does the next guy get a free ride? The majority of student loan debt is accumulated at the age of 18+. These are adults who made a decision to accept said loan and then pay it later. If you don't like the terms of the loan, don't accept it. No one forced you to take the loan. But if you accepted it, don't whine and cry to the government to bail you out. It's ridiculous. Impressive that you were able to pay off your student loans, many people never do. |
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Jul 22, 2016 7:25:31 GMT -5
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Post by doobeedoobeedoo on Jul 22, 2016 7:38:53 GMT -5
Not until they get their precious Cup back. |
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Post by EWA Beach PGH Fan on Jul 22, 2016 7:48:23 GMT -5
The student loan thing pisses me off. I spent the last ten years paying off my student loans. Finally finished in June. Why does the next guy get a free ride? The majority of student loan debt is accumulated at the age of 18+. These are adults who made a decision to accept said loan and then pay it later. If you don't like the terms of the loan, don't accept it. No one forced you to take the loan. But if you accepted it, don't whine and cry to the government to bail you out. It's ridiculous. Impressive that you were able to pay off your student loans, many people never do. It took 20 years but I paid mine off too several years ago. |
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Post by doobeedoobeedoo on Jul 22, 2016 7:59:15 GMT -5
Impressive that you were able to pay off your student loans, many people never do. It took 20 years but I paid mine off too several years ago. Congrats! |
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Post by EWA Beach PGH Fan on Jul 22, 2016 8:08:13 GMT -5
It took 20 years but I paid mine off too several years ago. Congrats! TY Doob. |
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Post by doobeedoobeedoo on Jul 22, 2016 8:32:17 GMT -5
It's an impressive feat. 20 years is pretty good too! I think something will need to be done about this whether we agree with it or not. It can easily go belly up like the mortgage loans back in 2008. History tends to repeat, especially when it comes to economical & financial issues. |
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Post by EWA Beach PGH Fan on Jul 22, 2016 10:22:38 GMT -5
It's an impressive feat. 20 years is pretty good too! I think something will need to be done about this whether we agree with it or not. It can easily go belly up like the mortgage loans back in 2008. History tends to repeat, especially when it comes to economical & financial issues. If you consolidate your student loans you can take up to 20 years to repay them. About a year after I started working for my Agency they started offering new hires a bonus of having their student loans paid off. What can you do???
If people pay the loans off then the program should fund itself BUT as soon as you let people default with no consequences the system goes belly up very very quickly. There are deferments for people who are unemployed or go back to school. With loan consolidation the first several year's payments are very low with the idea that your salary will go up over time. Worked great for me. Not sure what needs to be fixed but my first thought is make people repay even if it takes 30 or 40 years to repay the loans..
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Jul 23, 2016 7:20:20 GMT -5
WikiLeaks has some really interesting stuff on the DNC. Today could be a curious day with the talking heads and blowhards.
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Jul 23, 2016 10:42:59 GMT -5
WikiLeaks has some really interesting stuff on the DNC. Today could be a curious day with the talking heads and blowhards. I don't understand why the DNC and GOP allow unwanted "outsiders" to run on their ticket. The Republican Party clearly didn't want Trump to win their primaries, and the Democrats obviously didn't want Bernie Sanders to win theirs. So why even let them in the first place? They would look less corrupt if they had simply told Bernie no from the beginning. Letting him run like a fake candidate and then pulling this shit is way worse. That's what is so damned obscene about this entire "process". What is even more obscene - neither party has anyone who comes across with anything that remotely resembles "leadership". So they pull this shit and pass it off as "the process". Oh - I can't wait to see the shit storm grow around the emails from the DNC "suggesting" someone ask Bernie about his spiritual "beliefs"... and how the good ol' Southern Baptists in WV and KY might not take so kindly to him admitting to be an atheist instead of Jewish. |
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Post by Canuck eh? on Jul 23, 2016 13:06:54 GMT -5
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Jul 23, 2016 13:55:25 GMT -5
I suppose another option could be to enact some kind of performance guarantee on the colleges themselves. Make them back up their own degree. For example if their students can't land a job after X amount of months/years graduated, the college has to foot the student loan bill. Or at least part of it. That gets a lot trickier and all the variables involved would be strictly arbitrary. And you don't want to offer the same guarantee to someone who just scraped by as you would your valedictorian. So I'm thinking something like this... A student graduates with a 4.0 GPA, the school has to pay 50% of his student loans until he finds employment. A student graduates with a 3.0 GPA the school has to pay 25% of the loans until he finds employment. A student finishes with less than a 3.0 GPA and the school doesn't have to pay a dime because it's not necessarily the school's fault that said student didn't apply themselves. Change the GPA and percentages all you want but you get the idea. The school should have to pay enough to ensure that (A) they are providing quality education and (B) their graduates are able to use said degree to land a job. And the student should be incentivized to (A) do their best in school and (B) make a legitimate attempt to find employment. So if I get a degree majoring in 18th century French Philosophers they'll pay half if I get a 4.0 |
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Post by Guns N Guitars on Jul 23, 2016 17:30:58 GMT -5
So... Cruz and Trump basically told each other to fuck off tonight. Cruz threw his political career out the window. |
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Jul 23, 2016 18:05:56 GMT -5
So... Cruz and Trump basically told each other to fuck off tonight. Cruz threw his political career out the window. Not like he had far to toss it. |
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Post by Canuck eh? on Jul 23, 2016 18:29:15 GMT -5
Cruz threw his political career out the window. Not like he had far to toss it. LOL - more of a drop really. |
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Post by Canuck eh? on Jul 23, 2016 21:17:23 GMT -5
Colleges should be incentivized to offer degrees that are actually job relevant. There's a college word. Ain't be getting that in your public school. |
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Jul 24, 2016 10:45:45 GMT -5
Seriously dude?
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Post by Canuck eh? on Jul 24, 2016 13:52:00 GMT -5
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Jul 24, 2016 18:02:40 GMT -5
Not until they get their precious Cup back. Unless Calgary achieves greatness that ain't happening anytime soon. |
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Post by Zig on Jul 24, 2016 18:34:07 GMT -5
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Post by doobeedoobeedoo on Jul 24, 2016 19:24:45 GMT -5
Not until they get their precious Cup back. Unless Calgary achieves greatness that ain't happening anytime soon. Ottawa looks like the strongest Canadian team to me, although that's not saying much |
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Post by Zig on Jul 25, 2016 18:08:09 GMT -5
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Jul 25, 2016 21:22:00 GMT -5
If she were going to be indicted, she already would be. There's no way they do it.
Sadly.
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Post by EWA Beach PGH Fan on Jul 28, 2016 7:19:09 GMT -5
I suppose another option could be to enact some kind of performance guarantee on the colleges themselves. Make them back up their own degree. For example if their students can't land a job after X amount of months/years graduated, the college has to foot the student loan bill. Or at least part of it. That gets a lot trickier and all the variables involved would be strictly arbitrary. And you don't want to offer the same guarantee to someone who just scraped by as you would your valedictorian. So I'm thinking something like this... A student graduates with a 4.0 GPA, the school has to pay 50% of his student loans until he finds employment. A student graduates with a 3.0 GPA the school has to pay 25% of the loans until he finds employment. A student finishes with less than a 3.0 GPA and the school doesn't have to pay a dime because it's not necessarily the school's fault that said student didn't apply themselves. Change the GPA and percentages all you want but you get the idea. The school should have to pay enough to ensure that (A) they are providing quality education and (B) their graduates are able to use said degree to land a job. And the student should be incentivized to (A) do their best in school and (B) make a legitimate attempt to find employment. So if I get a degree majoring in 18th century French Philosophers they'll pay half if I get a 4.0 And what about all the college athletes who major in basket weaving, don't have a full scholarship, and don't make the pros??? Of course very few of them get a 4.0, so were talking about 25% but still. I know this is probably mostly Div II and III schools. |
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