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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Jan 12, 2015 7:55:51 GMT -5
Anyone see 12-4 for this team back in August?
Anyone see this defense actually being relevant and contributing after that horror show last season back in August?
Anyone see Romo making 17 starts this season after TWO back surgeries in the past two seasons back in August?
Anyone see our offensive line being THIS good back in August?
Anyone see our last two drafts actually have quality after the abortions that were the 2008/09/10 drafts back in August?
Anyone see this team in the second round of the playoffs within 4 minutes of actually winning the damn thing back in August?
If you can answer "Yes" to all of those questions... well - you're an effing liar.
Got plenty to work on for next season and I'm realistic that next season won't be the same. The coaching staff will definitely be different... the roster will have a different look with new contracts waiting (hopefully) for Murray and Bryant as well as players leaving (thanks Rolando McClain - but you're gonna get a big bag of money from someone for that rebound season - it just won't be Jerry) and another year of Will McClay proving he knows what he's doing as a player personnel man.
But - what a wonderful ride this season. Sure beats the shit out of the past 6. Thanks Cowboys.
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Post by NYR on Jan 12, 2015 8:31:19 GMT -5
Anyone see 12-4 for this team back in August? Anyone see this defense actually being relevant and contributing after that horror show last season back in August? Anyone see Romo making 17 starts this season after TWO back surgeries in the past two seasons back in August? Anyone see our offensive line being THIS good back in August? Anyone see our last two drafts actually have quality after the abortions that were the 2008/09/10 drafts back in August? Anyone see this team in the second round of the playoffs within 4 minutes of actually winning the damn thing back in August? If you can answer "Yes" to all of those questions... well - you're an effing liar. Got plenty to work on for next season and I'm realistic that next season won't be the same. The coaching staff will definitely be different... the roster will have a different look with new contracts waiting (hopefully) for Murray and Bryant as well as players leaving (thanks Rolando McClain - but you're gonna get a big bag of money from someone for that rebound season - it just won't be Jerry) and another year of Will McClay proving he knows what he's doing as a player personnel man. But - what a wonderful ride this season. Sure beats the shit out of the past 6. Thanks Cowboys. I couldn't agree more. I refuse to focus on the Dez Bryant call. So many lost opportunities on 3 and 1, the fumble and the missed field goal. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2015 9:05:11 GMT -5
Great team, no doubt. Nothing to be ashamed of at all.
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Jan 12, 2015 9:34:06 GMT -5
Anyone see 12-4 for this team back in August? Anyone see this defense actually being relevant and contributing after that horror show last season back in August? Anyone see Romo making 17 starts this season after TWO back surgeries in the past two seasons back in August? Anyone see our offensive line being THIS good back in August? Anyone see our last two drafts actually have quality after the abortions that were the 2008/09/10 drafts back in August? Anyone see this team in the second round of the playoffs within 4 minutes of actually winning the damn thing back in August? If you can answer "Yes" to all of those questions... well - you're an effing liar. Got plenty to work on for next season and I'm realistic that next season won't be the same. The coaching staff will definitely be different... the roster will have a different look with new contracts waiting (hopefully) for Murray and Bryant as well as players leaving (thanks Rolando McClain - but you're gonna get a big bag of money from someone for that rebound season - it just won't be Jerry) and another year of Will McClay proving he knows what he's doing as a player personnel man. But - what a wonderful ride this season. Sure beats the shit out of the past 6. Thanks Cowboys. I couldn't agree more. I refuse to focus on the Dez Bryant call. So many lost opportunities on 3 and 1, the fumble and the missed field goal. Plenty to chew on about that game although I tip my hat to the Packers. When they needed to make plays, they did. When the Cowboys needed to stop them in the 4th - they didn't.
Doesn't detract from a great playoff football game and a great season overall. That was fun.
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Post by NYR on Jan 12, 2015 9:37:59 GMT -5
I couldn't agree more. I refuse to focus on the Dez Bryant call. So many lost opportunities on 3 and 1, the fumble and the missed field goal. Plenty to chew on about that game although I tip my hat to the Packers. When they needed to make plays, they did. When the Cowboys needed to stop them in the 4th - they didn't.
Doesn't detract from a great playoff football game and a great season overall. That was fun.
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Post by aka50yearfan on Jan 12, 2015 9:50:40 GMT -5
Anyone see 12-4 for this team back in August? Anyone see this defense actually being relevant and contributing after that horror show last season back in August? Anyone see Romo making 17 starts this season after TWO back surgeries in the past two seasons back in August? Anyone see our offensive line being THIS good back in August? Anyone see our last two drafts actually have quality after the abortions that were the 2008/09/10 drafts back in August? Anyone see this team in the second round of the playoffs within 4 minutes of actually winning the damn thing back in August? If you can answer "Yes" to all of those questions... well - you're an effing liar. Got plenty to work on for next season and I'm realistic that next season won't be the same. The coaching staff will definitely be different... the roster will have a different look with new contracts waiting (hopefully) for Murray and Bryant as well as players leaving (thanks Rolando McClain - but you're gonna get a big bag of money from someone for that rebound season - it just won't be Jerry) and another year of Will McClay proving he knows what he's doing as a player personnel man. But - what a wonderful ride this season. Sure beats the shit out of the past 6. Thanks Cowboys. They did themselves proud this year. the offense was not surprising, but the defense was. Enjoy it while it lasts, my calendar says there is a three year window with Romo and keeping some of those talented OLs come FA time. Not many holes to fill in the draft and FA really that I can see. Outstanding games this weekend ( not including The Seattle Suckhawks ). |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Jan 12, 2015 12:50:24 GMT -5
Anyone see 12-4 for this team back in August? Anyone see this defense actually being relevant and contributing after that horror show last season back in August? Anyone see Romo making 17 starts this season after TWO back surgeries in the past two seasons back in August? Anyone see our offensive line being THIS good back in August? Anyone see our last two drafts actually have quality after the abortions that were the 2008/09/10 drafts back in August? Anyone see this team in the second round of the playoffs within 4 minutes of actually winning the damn thing back in August? If you can answer "Yes" to all of those questions... well - you're an effing liar. Got plenty to work on for next season and I'm realistic that next season won't be the same. The coaching staff will definitely be different... the roster will have a different look with new contracts waiting (hopefully) for Murray and Bryant as well as players leaving (thanks Rolando McClain - but you're gonna get a big bag of money from someone for that rebound season - it just won't be Jerry) and another year of Will McClay proving he knows what he's doing as a player personnel man. But - what a wonderful ride this season. Sure beats the shit out of the past 6. Thanks Cowboys. I couldn't agree more. I refuse to focus on the Dez Bryant call. So many lost opportunities on 3 and 1, the fumble and the missed field goal. Well I'm going to put some focus back on the call Steratore said: “Although the receiver is possessing the football, he must maintain possession of that football throughout the entire process of the catch. In our judgment, he maintained possession but continued to fall and never had another act common to the game. We deemed that by our judgment to be the full process of the catch, and at the time he lands and the ball hits the ground, it comes loose as it hits the ground, which would make that incomplete; although he re-possesses it, it does contact the ground when he reaches, so the repossession is irrelevant because it was ruled an incomplete pass when we had the ball hit the ground.” If that is the interpretation than 2 feet down makes a catch, well isn't the 3rd step a 'football act' Odds this rule is changed 1 to 3 |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Jan 12, 2015 12:51:37 GMT -5
Anyone see 12-4 for this team back in August? Anyone see this defense actually being relevant and contributing after that horror show last season back in August? Anyone see Romo making 17 starts this season after TWO back surgeries in the past two seasons back in August? Anyone see our offensive line being THIS good back in August? Anyone see our last two drafts actually have quality after the abortions that were the 2008/09/10 drafts back in August? Anyone see this team in the second round of the playoffs within 4 minutes of actually winning the damn thing back in August? If you can answer "Yes" to all of those questions... well - you're an effing liar. Got plenty to work on for next season and I'm realistic that next season won't be the same. The coaching staff will definitely be different... the roster will have a different look with new contracts waiting (hopefully) for Murray and Bryant as well as players leaving (thanks Rolando McClain - but you're gonna get a big bag of money from someone for that rebound season - it just won't be Jerry) and another year of Will McClay proving he knows what he's doing as a player personnel man. But - what a wonderful ride this season. Sure beats the shit out of the past 6. Thanks Cowboys. They did themselves proud this year. the offense was not surprising, but the defense was. Enjoy it while it lasts, my calendar says there is a three year window with Romo and keeping some of those talented OLs come FA time. Not many holes to fill in the draft and FA really that I can see. Outstanding games this weekend ( not including The Seattle Suckhawks ). Say What 50 |
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Post by NYR on Jan 12, 2015 12:52:51 GMT -5
I couldn't agree more. I refuse to focus on the Dez Bryant call. So many lost opportunities on 3 and 1, the fumble and the missed field goal. Well I'm going to put some focus back on the call Steratore said: “Although the receiver is possessing the football, he must maintain possession of that football throughout the entire process of the catch. In our judgment, he maintained possession but continued to fall and never had another act common to the game. We deemed that by our judgment to be the full process of the catch, and at the time he lands and the ball hits the ground, it comes loose as it hits the ground, which would make that incomplete; although he re-possesses it, it does contact the ground when he reaches, so the repossession is irrelevant because it was ruled an incomplete pass when we had the ball hit the ground.” If that is the interpretation than 2 feet down makes a catch, well isn't the 3rd step a 'football act' Odds this rule is changed 1 to 3 very true. And how many times this season have you seen a RB or WR in the process of getting tackled "reach for the goal-line" and fumble. This was called a TD |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Jan 12, 2015 12:56:04 GMT -5
Anyone see 12-4 for this team back in August? Anyone see this defense actually being relevant and contributing after that horror show last season back in August? Anyone see Romo making 17 starts this season after TWO back surgeries in the past two seasons back in August? Anyone see our offensive line being THIS good back in August? Anyone see our last two drafts actually have quality after the abortions that were the 2008/09/10 drafts back in August? Anyone see this team in the second round of the playoffs within 4 minutes of actually winning the damn thing back in August? If you can answer "Yes" to all of those questions... well - you're an effing liar.Same reasoning I made that Marinelli was the Coordinator of the year not Bowles Kubiak or Austin |
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Jan 12, 2015 15:09:06 GMT -5
I couldn't agree more. I refuse to focus on the Dez Bryant call. So many lost opportunities on 3 and 1, the fumble and the missed field goal. Well I'm going to put some focus back on the call Steratore said: “Although the receiver is possessing the football, he must maintain possession of that football throughout the entire process of the catch. In our judgment, he maintained possession but continued to fall and never had another act common to the game. We deemed that by our judgment to be the full process of the catch, and at the time he lands and the ball hits the ground, it comes loose as it hits the ground, which would make that incomplete; although he re-possesses it, it does contact the ground when he reaches, so the repossession is irrelevant because it was ruled an incomplete pass when we had the ball hit the ground.” If that is the interpretation than 2 feet down makes a catch, well isn't the 3rd step a 'football act' Odds this rule is changed 1 to 3 Odds that it comes up for review...
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Post by Center Ice on Jan 12, 2015 18:30:29 GMT -5
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Post by aka50yearfan on Jan 13, 2015 9:12:29 GMT -5
I'm sorry Swamp Dragon. did I say Seasucks? I meant Sea Gulls. Mea culpa.
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Post by NYR on Jan 13, 2015 9:20:26 GMT -5
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Jan 13, 2015 9:30:13 GMT -5
Listened to an interview with Mike Pereira yesterday. He said the competition committee did try to change the "Calvin Johnson" rule after the 2010 season. They just couldn't come to a consensus on "how" to change it. He also mentioned a point someone in the room made back then that still stands today. If you have 50 guys in a bar... half are batshit drunk and half are sober as my grandmother used to be... and they ALL agree that it's a catch, then how do you make the rule one that "makes sense"?
FWIW - he agrees with most people that it's a terrible rule. He also agrees with most people (including yours truly) that they made the right call based on the rule.
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Post by Center Ice on Jan 13, 2015 9:46:12 GMT -5
Listened to an interview with Mike Pereira yesterday. He said the competition committee did try to change the "Calvin Johnson" rule after the 2010 season. They just couldn't come to a consensus on "how" to change it. He also mentioned a point someone in the room made back then that still stands today. If you have 50 guys in a bar... half are batshit drunk and half are sober as my grandmother used to be... and they ALL agree that it's a catch, then how do you make the rule one that "makes sense"? FWIW - he agrees with most people that it's a terrible rule. He also agrees with most people (including yours truly) that they made the right call based on the rule. I must admit when they made the call I thought you guys got jobbed, but when they explained the rule during a slow motion replay, according to the rule, they got it right. The rule may be a bit over the top though. |
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Post by NYR on Jan 13, 2015 9:56:25 GMT -5
Listened to an interview with Mike Pereira yesterday. He said the competition committee did try to change the "Calvin Johnson" rule after the 2010 season. They just couldn't come to a consensus on "how" to change it. He also mentioned a point someone in the room made back then that still stands today. If you have 50 guys in a bar... half are batshit drunk and half are sober as my grandmother used to be... and they ALL agree that it's a catch, then how do you make the rule one that "makes sense"? FWIW - he agrees with most people that it's a terrible rule. He also agrees with most people (including yours truly) that they made the right call based on the rule. Gotcha the rule is the rule. Agree. But how is reaching toward the goal line NOT considered a football move? Down by 5 where the fuck you think he is trying to go? out of bounds? My only complaint is this: I get the non catch call on Dez, but then are all the calls made during the season wrong? There has to be at least a half a dozen plays where a player reaches for the goal line and fumbles upon contact with the ground. |
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Post by NYR on Jan 13, 2015 10:04:50 GMT -5
Listened to an interview with Mike Pereira yesterday. He said the competition committee did try to change the "Calvin Johnson" rule after the 2010 season. They just couldn't come to a consensus on "how" to change it. He also mentioned a point someone in the room made back then that still stands today. If you have 50 guys in a bar... half are batshit drunk and half are sober as my grandmother used to be... and they ALL agree that it's a catch, then how do you make the rule one that "makes sense"? FWIW - he agrees with most people that it's a terrible rule. He also agrees with most people (including yours truly) that they made the right call based on the rule. I must admit when they made the call I thought you guys got jobbed, but when they explained the rule during a slow motion replay, according to the rule, they got it right. The rule may be a bit over the top though. We robbed ourselves man. Plain and simple. You had all the momentum heading into the half; you had the miss on the field goal re-field goal which I thought was terrible play call. I mean you got GB @ Lambeau frustrated trying to stop you; and you make the FGK try to make a fairly long field goal on a shit field that is chewed to hell. You are playing Aaron Rodgers, you cant give him the ball back; play with the mindset of 4 downs in each set. Too close to punt, too far for a FG in those conditions...Go for it. Secondly, the whole safety over the top bullshit taking Dez out of the game was weak. I mean the best receiver in the league your not going to force them to adjust? Move him around in different sets. Send him underneath or across the middle? You have to know everyone is going to try and take him away; but good coaches find a way to get him a match up advantage. This has been a complaint of mine the whole season. You have to get him the damn ball! Second half play calling sucked. Not enough runs. Championship game you get the ball in the hands of your stars. You cant just abandon the run. Not to mention the shotgun on 3 and 1. |
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Jan 13, 2015 19:03:43 GMT -5
Looks like the band is coming back. Garrett for 5... Marinelli for 3 and working on Linehan. And as far as the "insider" who has maintained for months that Coach Rod was a sure thing to go to Tampa Bay...
Don't follow Brian Broaddus on Twitter. Dude has little but opinions. I can get those anywhere.
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Jan 13, 2015 19:27:11 GMT -5
I'm sorry Swamp Dragon. did I say Seasucks? I meant Sea Gulls. Mea culpa. USCHawks yeah Shithawks yeah ok when Tom Flores was coach Seasucks or Gulls and I'm sharpening my Gordie Howe windshield wipers |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Jan 13, 2015 19:35:28 GMT -5
Listened to an interview with Mike Pereira yesterday. He said the competition committee did try to change the "Calvin Johnson" rule after the 2010 season. They just couldn't come to a consensus on "how" to change it. He also mentioned a point someone in the room made back then that still stands today. If you have 50 guys in a bar... half are batshit drunk and half are sober as my grandmother used to be... and they ALL agree that it's a catch, then how do you make the rule one that "makes sense"? FWIW - he agrees with most people that it's a terrible rule. He also agrees with most people (including yours truly) that they made the right call based on the rule. I must admit when they made the call I thought you guys got jobbed, but when they explained the rule during a slow motion replay, according to the rule, they got it right. The rule may be a bit over the top though. There has to be irrefutable evidence to overturn and I can't see anyone seeing that, and as for a football act (their excuse) if 2 feet down is a catch than wasn't his 3rd step a football act. It was the proper call on the field and Blandino shouldn't be allowed to video judge this week just like they do to officials that make bad calls. He fucked up plain and simple and I ain't no Pokes fan |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Jan 14, 2015 0:07:55 GMT -5
Looks like they plan to let Murray walk. AP anyone?
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Jan 14, 2015 9:29:19 GMT -5
Looks like they plan to let Murray walk. AP anyone? Rumor is they have a 4 YR $16M offer on the table for him. Can't say that if I were him I'd take that.
Bigger question - what is the market for a quality RB who just had a 400 carry season. Methinks he is about to find out and unless the Cowboys do a deal with Dez before the FA period starts and still have the franchise tag in their pocket, Demarco is gone. Because - SOMEONE will overpay.
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Post by NYR on Jan 14, 2015 9:30:20 GMT -5
Looks like they plan to let Murray walk. AP anyone? Yeah, tough year FA-wise. Free, DM and Dez just to name the really important ones. |
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Jan 14, 2015 9:40:28 GMT -5
Looks like they plan to let Murray walk. AP anyone? Yeah, tough year FA-wise. Free, DM and Dez just to name the really important ones. Add Parnell to that list. He showed me a little something when Free was injured and certainly didn't embarrass himself. I'd like to think one or both could be got at a reasonable price also (reasonable = whatever the rate is for right tackles.)
Still have to address Leary - or <fill_in_the_blank> at LG too. He's a RFA so you "presume" he gets a little more in the bucket than $455K. Main thing I look for is that they take care of their offensive questions in house and focus on defense in the draft. Exclusively.
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Post by aka50yearfan on Jan 14, 2015 9:49:42 GMT -5
No way does JJ let Dez walk, even if he has to put his face on the teams helmet. JJ likes winning but he NEEDS superstar big name players. That stuff sells and JJ knows money.
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Post by Otis B. Driftwood on Jan 14, 2015 9:56:26 GMT -5
No way does JJ let Dez walk, even if he has to put his face on the teams helmet. JJ likes winning but he NEEDS superstar big name players. That stuff sells and JJ knows money. If he doesn't have a contract at 12:01 on March 4, the franchise tag will be applied no later than 12:02 on March 4. |
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Post by aka50yearfan on Jan 14, 2015 10:05:51 GMT -5
No way does JJ let Dez walk, even if he has to put his face on the teams helmet. JJ likes winning but he NEEDS superstar big name players. That stuff sells and JJ knows money. If he doesn't have a contract at 12:01 on March 4, the franchise tag will be applied no later than 12:02 on March 4. You are no doubt right. that tag is usually not worth it, but in his case, it definitely is. He is that good and absolutely irreplaceable in FA or the draft. Murray, ya can find RBs and with that OL they don't have to be Jim Brown to move the ball. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 10:07:14 GMT -5
I've never liked the "ball touched the ground" call. Makes no sense when a receiver has the ball in his hands prior to touching the ground, the ball touches the ground, and no separation occurs from the hand or hands holding the ball. If the ground changes the conteact with the hands, then it is incomplete. If the receive holds it securely before, during, and after touching the ground, it should be a catch.
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Post by NYR on Jan 14, 2015 10:35:23 GMT -5
If he doesn't have a contract at 12:01 on March 4, the franchise tag will be applied no later than 12:02 on March 4. You are no doubt right. that tag is usually not worth it, but in his case, it definitely is. He is that good and absolutely irreplaceable in FA or the draft. Murray, ya can find RBs and with that OL they don't have to be Jim Brown to move the ball. that's the thing. Murray waited for a contract year to produce; so yeah now he is going to ask to get paid. But he is a fumble-roosky and I think that is what will hold JJ for spending $$ on him. In addition, he is injury prone and not sturdy. This year we got lucky. |
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