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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2014 8:32:26 GMT -5
Well, since there are no Raider threads it appears this is virgin-territory.
We can't have that.
Funny how things change so fast. Three weeks ago, Reggie McKenzie had one foot out the door. Today, he looks like a drafting genius. By the end of the year he might be out the door again, although he's for sure getting one last draft.
Saw some Twitter-scuttlebutt about the move to LA. It's a pretty tight window now, first couple weeks of February. I'm thinking they made it that just in case SD makes the playoffs they don't have to deal with the distraction. I'm on the season ticket wait-list, and I was actually contacted about my interest in next season.
Anyway, made this thread for Raider talk. Like you care.
Go Raiders.
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Dec 12, 2014 8:13:54 GMT -5
LA? I thought they were interested in San Antonio?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2014 10:27:00 GMT -5
LA? I thought they were interested in San Antonio? That's just Mark Davis doing due diligence. It's one of the requirements the NFL makes you go through if you want them to approve the move (not that Al would bother with those, but Mark will). You have to investigate all other possibilities plus exhaust all avenues for getting your existing city to build a new stadium. Right now they're in a 90-day window to negotiate with a developer to build something they call "Coliseum City" in Oakland, but even the developer is admitting it's a longshot. I believe the window to apply for relocation was changed from Jan 1- Feb 15, to Feb 2- Feb 15 this year. So there's really 3 possibilities here - The Raiders announce they have a deal in place for Coliseum City (longshot) - the Raiders announce they intend to move to LA (50/50) - the Raiders announce they are signing another 1-year extension at O.co (to give time to keep working on a new stadium) If they want to move to LA that's going to be up to the NFL and whether or not the NFL wants the Rams or Chargers there instead of the Raiders. But yeah, San Antonio was just a negotiation ploy. |
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Post by Mr mastodon farm on Dec 12, 2014 11:34:12 GMT -5
LA? I thought they were interested in San Antonio? That's just Mark Davis doing due diligence. It's one of the requirements the NFL makes you go through if you want them to approve the move (not that Al would bother with those, but Mark will). You have to investigate all other possibilities plus exhaust all avenues for getting your existing city to build a new stadium. Right now they're in a 90-day window to negotiate with a developer to build something they call "Coliseum City" in Oakland, but even the developer is admitting it's a longshot. I believe the window to apply for relocation was changed from Jan 1- Feb 15, to Feb 2- Feb 15 this year. So there's really 3 possibilities here - The Raiders announce they have a deal in place for Coliseum City (longshot) - the Raiders announce they intend to move to LA (50/50) - the Raiders announce they are signing another 1-year extension at O.co (to give time to keep working on a new stadium) If they want to move to LA that's going to be up to the NFL and whether or not the NFL wants the Rams or Chargers there instead of the Raiders. But yeah, San Antonio was just a negotiation ploy. They need to do something. I doubt they get LA. I think the Rams are going back there. Like what Carr has done so far. Give him Murray for a full season, and Amari Cooper, and they offense would be a lot better next season |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2014 11:37:41 GMT -5
That's just Mark Davis doing due diligence. It's one of the requirements the NFL makes you go through if you want them to approve the move (not that Al would bother with those, but Mark will). You have to investigate all other possibilities plus exhaust all avenues for getting your existing city to build a new stadium. Right now they're in a 90-day window to negotiate with a developer to build something they call "Coliseum City" in Oakland, but even the developer is admitting it's a longshot. I believe the window to apply for relocation was changed from Jan 1- Feb 15, to Feb 2- Feb 15 this year. So there's really 3 possibilities here - The Raiders announce they have a deal in place for Coliseum City (longshot) - the Raiders announce they intend to move to LA (50/50) - the Raiders announce they are signing another 1-year extension at O.co (to give time to keep working on a new stadium) If they want to move to LA that's going to be up to the NFL and whether or not the NFL wants the Rams or Chargers there instead of the Raiders. But yeah, San Antonio was just a negotiation ploy. They need to do something. I doubt they get LA. I think the Rams are going back there. Like what Carr has done so far. Give him Murray for a full season, and Amari Cooper, and they offense would be a lot better next season I kind of doubt the NFL will let them. I'm sure they'd rather have the Rams or Chargers there. Amari Cooper would be the best thing they could ever do for Carr. Have no idea why the coaching staff wasn't playing Murray earlier in the season, but hopefully that crew (especially OC Greg Olson) are on their way out after the season. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2014 11:08:52 GMT -5
Jags and Titans play Thursday. Raiders will move into the #3 overall spot in the draft. If we lose out, we can do no worse than that.
With Buffalo and Denver left on our schedule, this is what it's come to. Would be nice if Tampa could pull out a victory in one of their final 2 games too.
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Dec 17, 2014 12:45:23 GMT -5
They need to do something. I doubt they get LA. I think the Rams are going back there. Like what Carr has done so far. Give him Murray for a full season, and Amari Cooper, and they offense would be a lot better next season I kind of doubt the NFL will let them. I'm sure they'd rather have the Rams or Chargers there. Amari Cooper would be the best thing they could ever do for Carr. Have no idea why the coaching staff wasn't playing Murray earlier in the season, but hopefully that crew (especially OC Greg Olson) are on their way out after the season. I'd bet San Diego they've had a stadium problem longest and the Spanos' have been good soldier and don't discount the Jags being LA bound Khan has infiltrated the select circle of power in the NFL I think that St Louis will cave in on the stadium issue. Imagine the arrogance of the government the lease that the Georgia Dome was going to be a top 5 venue or the lease could be declared invalid. Stupid stupid people in charge |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Dec 17, 2014 13:09:38 GMT -5
Jags and Titans play Thursday. Raiders will move into the #3 overall spot in the draft. If we lose out, we can do no worse than that. With Buffalo and Denver left on our schedule, this is what it's come to. Would be nice if Tampa could pull out a victory in one of their final 2 games too. Oh how the Raiders would love to be in one of the top 2 spots the draft would go through them with Marriota and Winiston available and 3 teams desperate for a QB.(no they won't draft one). They are not going to get a Rams ransom for it. I'll project they move back 2-4 spots and pick up a 1st 2nd and a depth player. Usually if you want to get better and be successful in the NFL you have to draft against the strengths of your division opponents and with that in mind I say the Raiders would take Randy Gregory, DE/OLB, Nebraska. They need to stop the high octane offenses of Denver San Diego and to a lesser extent KC other possibilities include Leonard Williams, DE/DT, USC Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame Amari Cooper, WR, Alabama Landon Collins, S, Alabama Shane Ray, DE/OLB, Missouri from NFL.com Oakland Raiders 2014 record: 2-12 (.571) Top three needs: Pass rusher, CB, WR Analysis: The Raiders are difficult to understand. They spent a lot of money on older descending players and haven't drafted very well, trading away picks in the process. That's how you get a depleted roster that needs a lot of work. And this Raiders roster needs A LOT of work, although Derek Carr looks like he could become a franchise-type quarterback. |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Dec 17, 2014 17:34:42 GMT -5
Highly unlikely for that little comp and the Raiders 1st is too early The Niners need a 4th rounder as they owe the Broncos theirs and another to the Bills in the Stevie Johnson deal They also owe the Phins a 7th in the Martin trade So how about a 2nd 4th and 2nd next season that sounds more plausible |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2014 17:52:36 GMT -5
Highly unlikely for that little comp and the Raiders 1st is too early The Niners need a 4th rounder as they owe the Broncos theirs and another to the Bills in the Stevie Johnson deal They also owe the Phins a 7th in the Martin trade So how about a 2nd 4th and 2nd next season that sounds more plausible I don't see a 2nd. A Raider 2nd is basically a late 1st. Herm Edwards cost the Jets a 4th round pick - that's the last time a coach was traded. No way a coach pulls in that many picks. (Yes, Gruden hauled in 2 1st rounders but that was more than a decade ago.) 49ers have lost all leverage on this. They are firing Harbaugh and everyone knows it. I can realistically see him traded for a 3rd rounder (and a Raider 3rd rounder is basically a late 2nd rounder) but no more than that. I believe that last year when he was rumored to be traded to the Browns, the supposed compensation then was a 3rd rounder. |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Dec 17, 2014 19:35:41 GMT -5
Highly unlikely for that little comp and the Raiders 1st is too early The Niners need a 4th rounder as they owe the Broncos theirs and another to the Bills in the Stevie Johnson deal They also owe the Phins a 7th in the Martin trade So how about a 2nd 4th and 2nd next season that sounds more plausible I don't see a 2nd. A Raider 2nd is basically a late 1st. Herm Edwards cost the Jets a 4th round pick - that's the last time a coach was traded. No way a coach pulls in that many picks. (Yes, Gruden hauled in 2 1st rounders but that was more than a decade ago.) 49ers have lost all leverage on this. They are firing Harbaugh and everyone knows it. I can realistically see him traded for a 3rd rounder (and a Raider 3rd rounder is basically a late 2nd rounder) but no more than that. I believe that last year when he was rumored to be traded to the Browns, the supposed compensation then was a 3rd rounder. I could see them getting creative with this and Herm Edwards was not a blue chip coach as Harbaugh is viewed as profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/10/05/browns-nearly-had-harbaugh-for-two-third-round-picks/ |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 10:24:13 GMT -5
Still, I think Harbaugh's trade value may have dipped a bit this year. We'll see. Michigan has supposedly offered him $8 million/year, so in other words what the Raiders paid Matt Schaub this year to hold field goals. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 12:16:58 GMT -5
Matt McGloin is the answer.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 12:19:23 GMT -5
Matt McGloin is the answer. Sure. "Who can hold field goals in 2015 for 1/10 the price that Matt Schaub can?" would be the question. |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Dec 23, 2014 23:10:07 GMT -5
Well, since there are no Raider threads it appears this is virgin-territory. We can't have that. Funny how things change so fast. Three weeks ago, Reggie McKenzie had one foot out the door. Today, he looks like a drafting genius. By the end of the year he might be out the door again, although he's for sure getting one last draft. Saw some Twitter-scuttlebutt about the move to LA. It's a pretty tight window now, first couple weeks of February. I'm thinking they made it that just in case SD makes the playoffs they don't have to deal with the distraction. I'm on the season ticket wait-list, and I was actually contacted about my interest in next season. Anyway, made this thread for Raider talk. Like you care. Go Raiders. Hey they've gone 3-2 in their last 5 and there kids have been looking good can't say the same for most of their FA signings tho'. Have to admit Reggie turned out to be right on letting Houston go he was a total bust there before blowing out his knee sacking a back up QB in a rout (his only sack). Still have to question the decision to let Verheer go although one of the few FA's that payed good was Penn his replacement. I say they let him stay and they should but this is make or break 2015 they have to start showing some improvement and taking that cap space for a spin (not going crazy just smart) to improve their depth |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2014 13:24:20 GMT -5
Mark says he's going to do the coach search next week. So.... Like Father Like Son after all. Hopefully the people giving him football advice aren't the same kind of people who give him haircut advice.
Honestly, I would like to see Reggie and Sparano stay. Everything hasn't gone well for RM as GM, but he IS a first time GM and Mark knew that when he hired him. Fire Greg Olson and find a real offensive coordinator. Only way I think RM goes is IF they get Harbaugh to come and I don't think Harbaugh is coming - we'll know by Monday or Tuesday next week. I just don't think so.
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Dec 24, 2014 15:53:46 GMT -5
Mark says he's going to do the coach search next week. So.... Like Father Like Son after all. Hopefully the people giving him football advice aren't the same kind of people who give him haircut advice. Honestly, I would like to see Reggie and Sparano stay. Everything hasn't gone well for RM as GM, but he IS a first time GM and Mark knew that when he hired him. Fire Greg Olson and find a real offensive coordinator. Only way I think RM goes is IF they get Harbaugh to come and I don't think Harbaugh is coming - we'll know by Monday or Tuesday next week. I just don't think so. See if Harbaugh or Gruden are interested |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Dec 24, 2014 15:56:20 GMT -5
Well, since there are no Raider threads it appears this is virgin-territory. We can't have that. Funny how things change so fast. Three weeks ago, Reggie McKenzie had one foot out the door. Today, he looks like a drafting genius. By the end of the year he might be out the door again, although he's for sure getting one last draft. Saw some Twitter-scuttlebutt about the move to LA. It's a pretty tight window now, first couple weeks of February. I'm thinking they made it that just in case SD makes the playoffs they don't have to deal with the distraction. I'm on the season ticket wait-list, and I was actually contacted about my interest in next season. Anyway, made this thread for Raider talk. Like you care. Go Raiders. So which can't we have 'No Raiders Threads ' or 'Virgin Territory' |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2014 10:18:19 GMT -5
Well, since there are no Raider threads it appears this is virgin-territory. We can't have that. Funny how things change so fast. Three weeks ago, Reggie McKenzie had one foot out the door. Today, he looks like a drafting genius. By the end of the year he might be out the door again, although he's for sure getting one last draft. Saw some Twitter-scuttlebutt about the move to LA. It's a pretty tight window now, first couple weeks of February. I'm thinking they made it that just in case SD makes the playoffs they don't have to deal with the distraction. I'm on the season ticket wait-list, and I was actually contacted about my interest in next season. Anyway, made this thread for Raider talk. Like you care. Go Raiders. So which can't we have 'No Raiders Threads ' or 'Virgin Territory' Yes. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 13:37:09 GMT -5
I found this one pretty shocking...
Mark Davis is definitely not his father.
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Post by CWJim on Jan 5, 2015 14:52:43 GMT -5
I found this one pretty shocking... Mark Davis is definitely not his father. What!!!! I thought Shanahan was a big time Raider hater, maybe it was just Al he hated. That is pretty surprising though. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 14:53:54 GMT -5
I found this one pretty shocking... Mark Davis is definitely not his father. What!!!! I thought Shanahan was a big time Raider hater, maybe it was just Al he hated. That is pretty surprising though. He was. Maybe now he just wants to stick it to the Broncos worse. |
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Post by CWJim on Jan 5, 2015 15:08:03 GMT -5
What!!!! I thought Shanahan was a big time Raider hater, maybe it was just Al he hated. That is pretty surprising though. He was. Maybe now he just wants to stick it to the Broncos worse. Well...he does coach better when he has a burr up his ass, maybe you guys would do good to get him back ! I think he is better than Sparano. |
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Post by Swamp Dragon on Jan 22, 2015 22:46:02 GMT -5
Jags and Titans play Thursday. Raiders will move into the #3 overall spot in the draft. If we lose out, we can do no worse than that. With Buffalo and Denver left on our schedule, this is what it's come to. Would be nice if Tampa could pull out a victory in one of their final 2 games too. Oh how the Raiders would love to be in one of the top 2 spots the draft would go through them with Marriota and Winiston available and 3 teams desperate for a QB.(no they won't draft one). They are not going to get a Rams ransom for it. I'll project they move back 2-4 spots and pick up a 1st 2nd and a depth player. Usually if you want to get better and be successful in the NFL you have to draft against the strengths of your division opponents and with that in mind I say the Raiders would take Randy Gregory, DE/OLB, Nebraska. They need to stop the high octane offenses of Denver San Diego and to a lesser extent KC other possibilities include Leonard Williams, DE/DT, USC Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame Amari Cooper, WR, Alabama Landon Collins, S, Alabama Shane Ray, DE/OLB, Missouri from NFL.com Oakland Raiders 2014 record: 2-12 (.571) Top three needs: Pass rusher, CB, WR Analysis: The Raiders are difficult to understand. They spent a lot of money on older descending players and haven't drafted very well, trading away picks in the process. That's how you get a depleted roster that needs a lot of work. And this Raiders roster needs A LOT of work, although Derek Carr looks like he could become a franchise-type quarterback. Interesting take from Jeremiah in his Mock for the Raiders www.nfl.com/draft/2015/mock-drafts/daniel-jeremiah/215603 |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2015 14:47:27 GMT -5
Oh how the Raiders would love to be in one of the top 2 spots the draft would go through them with Marriota and Winiston available and 3 teams desperate for a QB.(no they won't draft one). They are not going to get a Rams ransom for it. I'll project they move back 2-4 spots and pick up a 1st 2nd and a depth player. Usually if you want to get better and be successful in the NFL you have to draft against the strengths of your division opponents and with that in mind I say the Raiders would take Randy Gregory, DE/OLB, Nebraska. They need to stop the high octane offenses of Denver San Diego and to a lesser extent KC other possibilities include Leonard Williams, DE/DT, USC Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame Amari Cooper, WR, Alabama Landon Collins, S, Alabama Shane Ray, DE/OLB, Missouri from NFL.com Oakland Raiders 2014 record: 2-12 (.571) Top three needs: Pass rusher, CB, WR Analysis: The Raiders are difficult to understand. They spent a lot of money on older descending players and haven't drafted very well, trading away picks in the process. That's how you get a depleted roster that needs a lot of work. And this Raiders roster needs A LOT of work, although Derek Carr looks like he could become a franchise-type quarterback. Interesting take from Jeremiah in his Mock for the Raiders www.nfl.com/draft/2015/mock-drafts/daniel-jeremiah/215603Yes interesting. For sure there will be guys coming out of seemingly nowhere once the draft hype machine starts up. I don't follow college football close enough to know who's who until the Combine. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 15:52:27 GMT -5
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Post by Zig on Feb 3, 2015 14:21:38 GMT -5
Raiders could again have over $60 million in salary cap space, second most in NFLBy Levi Damien on Feb 3 2015, 10:00a It will be a second-straight offseason with oodles of money to spend for the Raiders. According to figures put out by Spotrac.com, the cap is estimated to be set at $142 million which would give the Raiders approximately $50 million to spend this offseason. That is second in the NFL behind only the Jacksonville Jaguars who have $57 million to spend. And it could get better. Should the Raiders cut ties with Matt Schaub, Lamarr Woodley, and Maurice Jones-Drew, as they are expected to do, they would save an additional $13.2 million, putting them a whopping $63.2 million under the cap. The only one of those three players with a slight chance of returning is MJD. He carries a $2.5 million cap hit which would mean the Raiders are just under $61 million -- exactly what they had last year when they set an NFL record for cap space. In case you were wondering, the Jaguars could also add savings under the cap by cutting Chad Henne and Toby Gerhart. That would give them another $6.5 million, bringing their spending money still just a hair more than the Raiders at about $63.5 million. Merely having a lot of cap space doesn't mean a whole lot. They didn't spend all of it last year, resulting in $7.4 million in roll over and with what they did spend they didn't get a whole lot in the way of young talent either. Even worse, they weren't able to keep their own young building blocks. Offering deals without a lot of guaranteed money after the first year of the contract won't attract many good young players. One could use the excuse that no good players wanted to join a rebuilding project with a lame duck head coach. That's entirely possible, and if that was the case, the Raiders are in a much better position now with a new head coach in place and some young drafted players to build around such as Khalil Mack and Derek Carr. The Raiders still need a lot of talent so it's possible we see another year of quantity over quality. Then again with that kind of scratch... for the right player... you never know. www.silverandblackpride.com/2015/2/3/7969003/oakland-raiders-over-60-million-salary-cap-space-second-most-in-nfl-jacksonville-jaguars
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