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Post by b1ake on Feb 28, 2017 15:49:47 GMT -5
I heard that the Lerner's went over Mike Rizzo's head to sign Wieters...This apparently isn't the first time this sort of thing happened with a Boras client that made it to the Nats, they did the same thing when they signed Rafael Soriano...
Wow...
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Post by lemiwinks on Feb 28, 2017 15:53:28 GMT -5
I heard that the Lerner's went over Mike Rizzo's head to sign Wieters...This apparently isn't the first time this sort of thing happened with a Boras client that made it to the Nats, they did the same thing when they signed Rafael Soriano... Wow... It probably wasn't hard to get over Rizzo's head......because he is still bent over the log that Rick Hahn assfucked him on in the Eaton deal. |
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Post by Chappion on Feb 28, 2017 15:54:11 GMT -5
I heard that the Lerner's went over Mike Rizzo's head to sign Wieters...This apparently isn't the first time this sort of thing happened with a Boras client that made it to the Nats, they did the same thing when they signed Rafael Soriano... Wow... Not a huge surprise there. The Nats are practically owned by Boras at this point. |
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Post by b1ake on Feb 28, 2017 15:54:53 GMT -5
I heard that the Lerner's went over Mike Rizzo's head to sign Wieters...This apparently isn't the first time this sort of thing happened with a Boras client that made it to the Nats, they did the same thing when they signed Rafael Soriano... Wow... It probably wasn't hard to get over Rizzo's head......because he is still bent over the log that Rick Hahn assfucked him on in the Eaton deal. Son of a.... |
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Post by b1ake on Feb 28, 2017 15:56:48 GMT -5
I heard that the Lerner's went over Mike Rizzo's head to sign Wieters...This apparently isn't the first time this sort of thing happened with a Boras client that made it to the Nats, they did the same thing when they signed Rafael Soriano... Wow... Not a huge surprise there. The Nats are practically owned by Boras at this point. Looks like it, it's possible that 9 of the players on the opening day roster will be represented by Boras.... |
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Post by b1ake on Feb 28, 2017 16:01:26 GMT -5
It went from "We don't have the funds to improve the bullpen as much due to cost overruns on the spring training complex" to "Here's $10M for a catcher that we really didn't need and we'll throw in an option of $11M for next season. We still don't have the money for upgrading the bullpen. One of those guys can step up into the closers role."
Wieters had better be a beast....
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Post by lemiwinks on Feb 28, 2017 16:03:23 GMT -5
It probably wasn't hard to get over Rizzo's head......because he is still bent over the log that Rick Hahn assfucked him on in the Eaton deal. Son of a.... Nats got a closer yet?
Robertson is going to close for Team USA in the WBC. I think he is the only one still available. The only reason that deal isn't done yet is probably because Rizzo is too sore still.
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Post by jets12 on Feb 28, 2017 16:04:35 GMT -5
It went from "We don't have the funds to improve the bullpen as much due to cost overruns on the spring training complex" to "Here's $10M for a catcher that we really didn't need and we'll throw in an option of $11M for next season. We still don't have the money for upgrading the bullpen. One of those guys can step up into the closers role." Wieters had better be a beast....Good luck with that! |
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Post by lemiwinks on Feb 28, 2017 16:08:37 GMT -5
It went from "We don't have the funds to improve the bullpen as much due to cost overruns on the spring training complex" to "Here's $10M for a catcher that we really didn't need and we'll throw in an option of $11M for next season. We still don't have the money for upgrading the bullpen. One of those guys can step up into the closers role." Wieters had better be a beast.... .243/.302/.409 in 124 games in 2016
75 games in 2015........26 games in 2014
2013: .235/.287/.417 in the last season he played where he didn't get hurt. 148 games
when exactly has he ever been a beast?
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Post by b1ake on Feb 28, 2017 16:09:55 GMT -5
Nats got a closer yet?
Robertson is going to close for Team USA in the WBC. I think he is the only one still available. The only reason that deal isn't done yet is probably because Rizzo is too sore still.
Nope, last I heard was an open competition between Shawn Kelly, Koda Glover and Blake Treinin. I heard a Robertson deal was still a possibility since they want Pedro Severino...And since the Nats have 4 catchers now, they won't mind as much letting Severino go... |
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Post by Chappion on Feb 28, 2017 16:10:07 GMT -5
It went from "We don't have the funds to improve the bullpen as much due to cost overruns on the spring training complex" to "Here's $10M for a catcher that we really didn't need and we'll throw in an option of $11M for next season. We still don't have the money for upgrading the bullpen. One of those guys can step up into the closers role." Wieters had better be a beast.... The Nats seemed awfully confused this Winter. Nobody else seemed to want to pay Wieters. The 2nd year was completely unnecessary. Once they missed on Sale they seemed to panic and failed to do anything that they wanted to do when the offseason began. |
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Post by b1ake on Feb 28, 2017 16:11:41 GMT -5
It went from "We don't have the funds to improve the bullpen as much due to cost overruns on the spring training complex" to "Here's $10M for a catcher that we really didn't need and we'll throw in an option of $11M for next season. We still don't have the money for upgrading the bullpen. One of those guys can step up into the closers role." Wieters had better be a beast.... .243/.302/.409 in 124 games in 2016
75 games in 2015........26 games in 2014
2013: .235/.287/.417 in the last season he played where he didn't get hurt. 148 games
when exactly has he ever been a beast?
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Post by b1ake on Feb 28, 2017 16:16:53 GMT -5
It went from "We don't have the funds to improve the bullpen as much due to cost overruns on the spring training complex" to "Here's $10M for a catcher that we really didn't need and we'll throw in an option of $11M for next season. We still don't have the money for upgrading the bullpen. One of those guys can step up into the closers role." Wieters had better be a beast.... The Nats seemed awfully confused this Winter. Nobody else seemed to want to pay Wieters. The 2nd year was completely unnecessary. Once they missed on Sale they seemed to panic and failed to do anything that they wanted to do when the offseason began. I don't think the Nats really wanted to pay Wieters...It obviously wasn't a position that needed to be made a priority over the bullpen, but it happened... I don't like what they gave up for Eaton, who really knows how those prospects turn out, but I love the idea of Eaton and Trea Turner leading the lineup with all of that speed on the base paths with Hits and Harper coming in behind them... |
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Post by Smuck on Feb 28, 2017 16:19:46 GMT -5
.243/.302/.409 in 124 games in 2016
75 games in 2015........26 games in 2014
2013: .235/.287/.417 in the last season he played where he didn't get hurt. 148 games
when exactly has he ever been a beast?
Fuck you. If it makes you feel any better, Fangraphs has him at 1.7 WAR last year, based on his defense obviously. -7.2/+8.2 O/D. So he was still enough use defensively to be 1.7 games better than shitbum replacement catcher. |
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Post by lemiwinks on Feb 28, 2017 16:20:04 GMT -5
The Nats seemed awfully confused this Winter. Nobody else seemed to want to pay Wieters. The 2nd year was completely unnecessary. Once they missed on Sale they seemed to panic and failed to do anything that they wanted to do when the offseason began. I don't think the Nats really wanted to pay Wieters...It obviously wasn't a position that needed to be made a priority over the bullpen, but it happened... I don't like what they gave up for Eaton, who really knows how those prospects turn out, but I love the idea of Eaton and Trea Turner leading the lineup with all of that speed on the base paths with Hits and Harper coming in behind them... and then taking a 1 run lead into the 9th.........
and walk away with an L
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Post by lemiwinks on Feb 28, 2017 16:22:38 GMT -5
If it makes you feel any better, Fangraphs has him at 1.7 WAR last year, based on his defense obviously. -7.2/+8.2 O/D. So he was still enough use defensively to be 1.7 games better than shitbum replacement catcher. I'm not sure what all of his injury problems were...but he has logged a lot of games behind the plate......Hopefully, all those injury problems go away now that he has hit his 30s. That's usually how it works. |
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Post by b1ake on Feb 28, 2017 16:23:55 GMT -5
If it makes you feel any better, Fangraphs has him at 1.7 WAR last year, based on his defense obviously. -7.2/+8.2 O/D. So he was still enough use defensively to be 1.7 games better than shitbum replacement catcher. Thanks Smuck. The Nats actually needed the bat last year from the catcher position, but they shouldn't need it as much this year with a return to form for Harper and Rendon getting back to MVP-caliber hitting... |
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Post by b1ake on Feb 28, 2017 16:25:36 GMT -5
I don't think the Nats really wanted to pay Wieters...It obviously wasn't a position that needed to be made a priority over the bullpen, but it happened... I don't like what they gave up for Eaton, who really knows how those prospects turn out, but I love the idea of Eaton and Trea Turner leading the lineup with all of that speed on the base paths with Hits and Harper coming in behind them... and then taking a 1 run lead into the 9th.........
and walk away with an L
Haha, teams have survived with lesser options.... RIGHT??? TELL ME THAT I'M RIGHT AND IT'S GOING TO BE ALRIGHT!!! |
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Post by b1ake on Feb 28, 2017 16:27:35 GMT -5
If it makes you feel any better, Fangraphs has him at 1.7 WAR last year, based on his defense obviously. -7.2/+8.2 O/D. So he was still enough use defensively to be 1.7 games better than shitbum replacement catcher. I'm not sure what all of his injury problems were...but he has logged a lot of games behind the plate......Hopefully, all those injury problems go away now that he has hit his 30s. That's usually how it works. He shouldn't have to play as much, Lobaton or Norris is good for spot duty should they end up moving the young guy for a closer. |
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Post by Chappion on Feb 28, 2017 16:29:10 GMT -5
The Nats seemed awfully confused this Winter. Nobody else seemed to want to pay Wieters. The 2nd year was completely unnecessary. Once they missed on Sale they seemed to panic and failed to do anything that they wanted to do when the offseason began. I don't think the Nats really wanted to pay Wieters...It obviously wasn't a position that needed to be made a priority over the bullpen, but it happened... I don't like what they gave up for Eaton, who really knows how those prospects turn out, but I love the idea of Eaton and Trea Turner leading the lineup with all of that speed on the base paths with Hits and Harper coming in behind them... Yeah. I don't think anyone really wanted Wieters. They were bidding against themselves. They went into the Winter looking for a closer and a top-tier starter and ended up with an outfielder and 7 catchers. Weird. |
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Post by lemiwinks on Feb 28, 2017 16:30:06 GMT -5
and then taking a 1 run lead into the 9th.........
and walk away with an L
Haha, teams have survived with lesser options.... RIGHT??? TELL ME THAT I'M RIGHT AND IT'S GOING TO BE ALRIGHT!!! survive? yes.....win without a bullpen? especially in the post season? no. |
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Post by b1ake on Feb 28, 2017 16:37:16 GMT -5
Haha, teams have survived with lesser options.... RIGHT??? TELL ME THAT I'M RIGHT AND IT'S GOING TO BE ALRIGHT!!! survive? yes.....win without a bullpen? especially in the post season? no. They don't win in the postseason anyway... |
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